Come on guys! Yes, I, Ty Kraemer, a proud NESDA member posted the above. I used that headline just to get your attention. My reason for posting is to let you know what is going on, not just at NESDA, but also in general. I realized that this might be the beginning of another "Nation Wide" organization. Thinking that you would be interested in following the birth of another such organization, I posted it. It was not intended to degrade or point fingers. NESDA, like Tech Assist, is a brotherhood of technicians. The purpose of NESDA (as I understand it,) is to educate and be a liaison between the independent servicers, manufactures, and sometimes the government. In my opinion, they do an admirable job considering the circumstances. The people heading NESDA are just like you and I. Hard working, caring, honest and selfless with their time and money. Like you, they also are thinking people! When you come up whit a new business plan, do you announce it to the world? (I don't think so!) As it I see it, one of them has joined a group who has a different idea. I for one admire people who have the courage to follow an idea. Where would we be now, if those backstabbing traitors to the Royal Crown of England would not have followed their dream? We honor them now. If England had prevailed, we would be honoring Benedict Arnold. It is said that death and taxes are the only certain things in life. If the majority of the people would make up their mind, taxes here in the United States could be made illegal. All it would take is a vote. (Don't ask me what that would accomplish!) Medicine has pushed Death back considerably. Since the last hundred years, our life expectancy has doubled. The cost of healthcare for the aged has skyrocketed, and no one wants the responsibility of caring for THEM. (Soon to be US) !CHANGE! Yes, change is the only certainty in life. Everything changes. The ?Rouge? NESDA member might be considered at this time a traitor to the industries general cause. (Remember the Royal Crown of England) BUT who knows, this group might pull the chestnuts out of the fire for all of us. (Remember World War II) Instead of condemning, let us observe and learn. We blame the manufacturers and low prices for the mess we find ourselves in. I say this belief is wrong. The problem is evolution. In the days of black and white television everything was made by hand, and most likely by union workers. The television cost as much as an automobile. Today, a truck with raw materials, pulls up to a factory and dumps it's content. On the other end, a forklift loads the finished goods onto another truck. In the factory, (almost) one guy sits at a control panel and reads Playboy until a buzzer sound. He makes a couple of small adjustments, and goes back to reading. Now you have the audacity to ask for a repair part! The part you want becomes a missing part in the manufacturing process. Everything has to be reset. You are interrupting the reading of Playboy! The Manufacturer looses the sale of a new unit. And remember, he only makes a couple of cents on his invested dollar. Of course the DVD player or VCR that factory produces by the millions is going to be dirt cheap and not worth the bother to repair. Who is to be blamed? The Manufacturer? He, like us, has to cut the fat wherever he can. He has the same responsibility as you and I. The less fat in his operation, the more money he takes home to spend on his family. The Consumer? The cheaper the price of the product he buys, the more he has to spend on his family. Now the guy who is cut out of the chain?. As to how we are going to survive an environment such as this, I am afraid that I do not have the answer. The one, who is thought of as a traitor at his time, just.... just might be on the right track. Observe, learn, and hope that, if not He, someone will come up with an answer! Who knows? It might be one of us! God bless us all. Ty Tiberius Kraemer BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS 3312 Silverton Rd. NE Salem, Oregon Phone: 503 391 1491 Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx PS: By the way, I venomously disagree whit the message sent by anonymous (Labeauxman at wmconnect.com) and others. Yes, some of the past board members of NESDA have attained greater ambitions using NESDA as a stepping-stone. It only proves to me that while serving NESDA, they furthered NESDA?s cause thereby achieving their own. Some people manage to make their own opportunities others wait for it to knock at the door. Most of us have achieved our goal. We spent an interesting and rewarding life behind the bench. I for one, have no regrets. -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gemini Computer & TV Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 3:29 AM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? NESDA top... The thread indicates the originator as ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx . Wouldn't that be Ty Kraemer whom is a NESDA member, isn't he? Bob Waterman, CET® #RI-28 Master Technician License #9109 Service Manager / Parts Manager Gemini Computer, TV, & Security Alarms (508)695-7302 (508)695-7769 FAX geminitv@xxxxxxxxxxx geminitv@xxxxxxx www.geminicomputertvsecurityalarms.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:27 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? NESDA top... > NO idea who you are, since you don't include a signature like everyone else... > You know, there are a lot of good people who are NESDA member, several hundred people...some may fit the > description you provided, but I suggest you be a little more professional when you decide to degrade a > whole organization and perhaps word it a bit more appropriately. > As a member for over three years, I take offense to your statements.especially when you don't have the > balls to sign your name. > And for the record, NESDA and it's members HAVE been an asset to my business. > Jeff > -- > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Labeauxman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:28 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? NESDA top... > > > In a message dated 8/20/04 6:17:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx > writes: > > > The big Hubbub at NESDA! > > This is an interesting thread which is developing on the NESDA Net. > > It pertains to all Independent Servicers. > > Another entity is being setup for "National Service" to cut us out of the > > picture? > > IS NESDA Involved? > > To see it, go to this address: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/NESDA.pdf > > > > NESDA, from my own personnel experience is the most self serving, back biting > org around. They will as a whole cut off their own nose despite having a face > so to speak. Good for the industry my aXX....... May they self-destruct and > become defunct as a whole! This would be the best interest of the electronics > industry in general...... They destroyed one of the most progressive programs > in the country when they deep sixed "SANYO"... two years ago. 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