Chris, I've just de-commissioned two pelicans at a de-trunked site, these have been replaced by zebras. It was a real battle and locals are (and remain) sceptical assumming that the big bad council is penny pinching. The following is extracted from a document I prepared during the approval process. Purpose 1. To seek approval for the de-commissioning of two existing pelican signal controlled crossings and replacing them with zebra crossing facilities on x in x (see Appendix A). Background 2. The pelican crossings, in the vicinity of x. and x. (see Appendix B), are at the end of their design life and attracting higher maintenance charges resulting from their increased unreliability. 3. The pelican crossings were commissioned in August 19x when x formed part of the Ax trunk road. This route was de-trunked following completion of the Ax in 19x. Lorry control measures were introduced along the route in 19x with all heavy goods vehicles being directed away from the village centre onto the Ax and other suitable routes. Traffic calming measures were then installed along the route during 19x. 4. Since the completion of the Ax and the imposition of lorry controls through x, the traffic flows have reduced by some 34%. 5. Traffic speed surveys carried out along this route during November 2005 recorded relatively low speeds of 18mph in both directions. 6. A recent survey was carried out to ascertain the level of pedestrian usage of the two pelican crossing facilities. This revealed that approximately half the pedestrians observed within the zig-zag controlled area crossed the road without the benefit of the green man signal indication. Many pedestrians also chose to cross the road in the gaps in the traffic flow without calling for the green man signal indication. 7. Accident information was interrogated for a five year period (to June 2006) and this has shown that there have been no reported pedestrian injury accidents occurring within 50m of either crossing installation. 8. Research carried out on the comparative safety to pedestrians crossing a pelican or a zebra crossing concluded that there was little difference in the pedestrian accident rate between the two crossing types. Other research has concluded that the zebra crossings cause lesser delays to pedestrians. Financial Implications 9. The renewal cost of the two pelican crossings would be of the order of £30k (@ £15k per location). The on-going maintenance costs (including energy and communications costs) over a 15 year life of the installation is of the order of £16k (@£1050k per year). This equates to a 'whole life' cost of £46k. 10. The cost of de-commissioning the two pelican crossings and replacing them with zebra crossing would be of the order of £14k (@ £7k per site). The maintenance and energy costs over a 15 year period would be of the order of £650 (@ £42 per year) and lamp replacement costs would be £2.4k (@£800 every 5 years). This equates to a 'whole life' cost of approximately £17k. 11. The cost analysis clearly indicates that there would be a substantial saving if the pelican crossings were changed to zebra crossings. TRRL report 895 " The comparative safety of pedestrian crossings" is a useful document As are the papers published in TEC October 1984 which looks at delays at Zebra crossings Good luck. Matt ---------------------------------------- Here in Blackburn Ive been tasked with trying to get our asset management systems in to place and aprt of this process is identifying which of our oldest kit is in direst need of replacement. =20 Now, I read at the symposium a while ago (JCT kindly sent me another copy of the paper last week) Mick Hoppers paper about challenging the need for retention. I quite blatently cribbed this policy for here, but Ive hit a stumbling block with our Road Safety people (surprise surprise). Their argument is that crossings are there for a reason and that they create a "black hole" insofar as the accident stats are concerned. Regardless of the fact that a full traffic survey will be carried out. =20 The problem is, there is no way we will have the money to replace all of the sites that are at present held together with rust and flyposting before they fall down. Has anyone out there actually successfully removed a signalised crossing in favour of something softer? If so, what justifications did you use? And any other wonderful tips in guiding our Road Safety colleagues in the right direction would also be greatly appreciated! 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