[tcb] Re: brian and the fabubus at it again
- From: "Gerald V. Livingston II" <gvl2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:48:25 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
Ronnie at http://www.type2parts.com builds a highe torque 1835 for
splitties. You might want to TRY to reach him and talk about its possible
application in a Bay. Bays weigh more, that's one of the reasons VW went
with the type4 in the US market. They came with type1 motors everywhere
else right up until they quit building them last year. But "everywhere
else" was third world markets with speed limits below 50mph. No matter how
well built a type1 is you will probably never see the power in a bay that
even a 1700 type4 would give you.
And, as Dan said, building a type1 to push a bus is going to run you right
on up toward the $3K range -- especially since you need a turnkey engine
complete with everything. Plus the proper cooling tin and the cutting and
welding you'll need to do to the engine bay to make it fit right ain't
gonna be cheap either.
There are probably no local shops that can do a type4, or are willing to.
this is one area where you'll probably have to go mail order. I went with
Jake Raby but he is EXPENSIVE and hard to work with -- and because of a
problem of my own making I am now scared to touch that motor because I know
how much I have in it. Others have been VERY pleased buying a short block
or long block type4 from "Boston Bob" at http://www.bostonengine.com/.
G2
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:12:36 -0600 Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> 1641 and 1776 are type 1 with more displacement from bigger pistons
> and cylinders. They make more horsepower but not much more torque.
> What a type 1 motored bus needs is more torque. I would suggest
> adding stroke instead of or in addition to bigger pistons and
> cylinders. Keep in mind that the more you add the more heat you will
> have to get rid of somehow.
>
> I saw the post on the aircoolers board as well. Please note that his
> bus is a 1973 that came from the factory with a 1700cc type 4. Not a
> big difference from a 1641. You have a 2000cc now? I don't think the
> gearing will work out well with a small type 1 motor in your bus.
>
> Denis has a 1904cc, I think, But when you start building a type 1
> motor that big you run up the cost a bunch, right up to the cost of a
> reliable type 4 in my opinion.
>
> I thought you had a guy hooking you up with some quality machine work
> for cheap on you heads?
>
> On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Brian Denning wrote:
>
> > denis what did you say you have in murry motor wise? i am strongly
> > considering building an upright for the fabubus. i am thinking
> > either 1641 or 1776. but don't know i have alot of questions on
> > building either and am planning on getting edumacated tonight by a
> > friend on it.
> >
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