why are they somewhat cheap on the samba??? are they good, are they reliable, i know nothing about them, what tells them when to shift? figured this is a good topic for the tcb...discuss. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208