[tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
- From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:11:16 -0600
Actually its a bilge blower not a pump. they are designed to blow fumes out
of the bilge area.
The bilge blower is switched on to ventilate before starting the engine.
Ed
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I wuz wonderin' about the bilge pump...they're designed to pump water not
> air...would there be an overheatin' issue within the pump? I've worked
> around sump pumps that got pretty warm, but the water kept them from gettin'
> too hot...jus' wonderin'...
>
> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:06 AM
> > Well I
> > spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the Bus with
> > the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation and
> > the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound deadening so I
> > didn't get a chance to try the fan installation
> > yet.
> > Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass
> > insulation pretty cheap for small places like under the
> > dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they are
> > gone
> > I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75
> > inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not sure
> > which one I'm gonna use yet.
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will
> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay...
> > can it be done?
> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM
> >
> > That's because of the bullet holes.
> >
> >
> > -- Sent from my
> > Palm Pre
> > Neil wrote:
> >
> > True! Believe me, mine is too well venilated!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz
> > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be
> > done?
> >
> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM
> >
> > > One thing to remember when burning propane
> >
> > > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor produced.
> > Just
> >
> > > another reason to make sure you are well ventilated
> > when
> >
> > > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor rain
> >
> > > forest!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Ed
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM,
> >
> > > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a
> > ProCat...the
> >
> > > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out
> > enough heat
> >
> > > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or sleepin'...
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes
> > <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it
> > be
> >
> > > done?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > This is what I use when it gets below
> > freezing. You
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > just have to crack a window. I bungee cord
> > it
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > under the dash so it doesn't fall over.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > James Dwan wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front of
> > the
> >
> > > heater tube.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I called West Marine by my house and they have
> > the
> >
> > > 4" for
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm gonna
> >
> > > finish
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front skin
> > blow
> >
> > > out
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > the whole thing with compressed air and install
> > it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > If I don't have too much egg nog...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson
> > /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/*
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > From: Denis Dodson
> > <coocoo@xxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
> > Heat in a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > To:
> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Date: Friday,
> > December 11,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 2009, 1:07 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > James, I have a Fan
> > from some
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > have to cut in to
> > the heating
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > channel and put an in-line fan in
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > there. West Marine,
> > or any
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > You need to mount it
> > pretty
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > far forward or they will melt. And
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > yes, they are noisy,
> > but they
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > blow really good strong hot air. I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > have a divider
> > behind my seat
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > run it non stop. I
> > have
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and they were amazed
> > how much
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > heat it gives off.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Do it today!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > *From:*
> > tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > *On Behalf Of *James
> > Dwan
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday,
> > December 11,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 2009 12:16 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > *To:*
> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re:
> > Heat in a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Thats a lot more
> > expensive!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > I have read that the
> > plastic
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > tends to melt on those and they are
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > loud. Someone
> > suggested this:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > But I have no idea
> > how I would
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > mount it inline. Any ideas?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > --- On *Fri,
> > 12/11/09, Dan
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/*
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > From: Dan Martin
> > <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Subject: [tcb] Re:
> > Heat in a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > late Bay... can it be done?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > To:
> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Date: Friday,
> > December 11,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 2009, 11:15 AM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> > http://www.vwheaters.com/
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > (bilge blower)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > On Dec 11, 2009, at
> > 10:36 AM,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > James Dwan wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Yeah the window
> > felts
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > that are on there allow cold air in and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > the jalousies do
> > too. What is
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > the correct way to replace the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > felts? Start in the
> > corner or
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > at the vent window?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Would a bilge
> > blower be
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > closer than a
> > Fry's.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > --- On Fri,
> > 12/11/09,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > From: Edward
> > Maikranz
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Subject: [tcb]
> > Re: Heat
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > in a late Bay... can it be done?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > To:
> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Date: Friday,
> > December
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > A bilge blower
> > from a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > a difference.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Also, the best
> > thing to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > work on sealing it
> > up and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > keeping the cold air out.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Ed Maikranz
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11,
> > 2009 at
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> > <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > So I plan on
> > taking the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > family to the Prairie Lights next
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > weekend (should be
> > about 3 hrs
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > OK for X-mas so i
> > need a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > heating solution.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > So far I have
> > wrapped the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > twice, tightened the
> > clasps
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > around the heater blower motor where
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > they attach to the
> > tubes.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > I was planning
> > on
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > involves ordering
> > parts and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > dealing with asbestos rings. Which is
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > no big deal but I
> > have a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > another idea.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Why not mount 2
> > computer
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > fans (12v) to either end of the tunnel
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > to push more air?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Has anyone
> > tried this?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > When I put my
> > hand on the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > dash the air is hot enough but it just
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > doesn't seem to
> > be in a hurry
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > ya know?
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