[tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?

After looking at those pics it looks more like bathroom plumbing than heat.


-- Sent from my Palm Pre
Neil wrote:

Well, gonna loose my Sea Capt'n card on that'n!  Good to know, thanks!



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



> From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>

> Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it be done?

> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:11 PM

> Actually its a bilge blower not a pump. they

> are designed to blow fumes out of the bilge area.

> The bilge blower is switched on to ventilate before

> starting the engine.

> Ed

> 

> 

> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM,

> Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> 

> I wuz wonderin' about the bilge

> pump...they're designed to pump water not air...would

> there be an overheatin' issue within the pump?

>  I've worked around sump pumps that got pretty warm,

> but the water kept them from gettin' too hot...jus'

> wonderin'...

> 

> 

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> 

> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

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> 

> > From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>

> 

> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it

> be done?

> 

> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

> 

> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:06 AM

> 

> > Well I

> 

> > spent a couple of hours insulating the front of the

> Bus with

> 

> > the solar bubble wrap, original fiber glass insulation

> and

> 

> > the foil backed butyl rubber sheets for sound

> deadening so I

> 

> > didn't get a chance to try the fan installation

> 

> > yet.

> 

> > Lowes also has a small bag of fiber glass

> 

> > insulation pretty cheap for small places like under

> the

> 

> > dash. I had some serious drafts under there now they

> are

> 

> > gone

> 

> > I did find that a 12v computer fan is 3.75

> 

> > inches and is a bit cheaper than the bilge fan. Not

> sure

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> > which one I'm gonna use yet.

> 

> >

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> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Will

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> > <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

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> >

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> > From: Will <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay...

> 

> >  can it be done?

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> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"

> 

> > <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> 

> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 10:49 PM

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> >

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> > That's because of the bullet holes.

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> >

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> > -- Sent from my

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> > Palm Pre

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> > Neil wrote:

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> > True!  Believe me, mine is too well venilated!

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> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Edward Maikranz

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> > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > From: Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can it

> be

> 

> > done?

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> >

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> > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> >

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> > > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:58 PM

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> >

> 

> > > One thing to remember when burning propane

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> >

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> > > in a vehicle is the amount of water vapor

> produced.

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> > Just

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> > > another reason to make sure you are well

> ventilated

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> > when

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> > > doing so, or you may find yourself with an indoor

> rain

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> > > forest!

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> > > Ed

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> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM,

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> > > Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > wrote:

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> > > Mine is somewhat similar to Mike's...its a

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> > ProCat...the

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> > > battery powered fan is weak, but it does put out

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> > enough heat

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> >

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> > > to keep ya toasty, drivin' or

> sleepin'...

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> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Mike Hayes

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> > <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

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> > > wrote:

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> > > > From: Mike Hayes <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

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> > > > Subject: [tcb] Re: Heat in a late Bay... can

> it

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> > be

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> > > done?

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> > > > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > > > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:06 PM

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> > > > This is what I use when it gets below

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> > freezing.  You

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> > > > just have to crack a window.  I bungee

> cord

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> > it 

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> > > > under the dash  so it doesn't fall

> over.

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> > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200307957_200307957

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> > > > James Dwan wrote:

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> > > > > I think I'll mount it at the front

> of

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> > the

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> >

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> > > heater tube.

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > > I called West Marine by my house and they

> have

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> > the

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> > > 4" for

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> > >

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> > > > $35. After X-mas decorating tonight I'm

> gonna

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> > > finish

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > > wrapping the front tubes, insulate the front

> skin

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> > blow

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> > > out

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> > > > the whole thing with compressed air and

> install

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> > it.

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> > > > > If I don't have too much egg

> nog...

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> > > > > --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Denis Dodson

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> > /<coocoo@xxxxxxx>/*

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> > > > >     From: Denis Dodson

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> > <coocoo@xxxxxxx>

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> > >

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> >

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> > > > >     Subject: [tcb] Re:

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> > Heat in a

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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?

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> > > > >     To:

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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > > > >     Date: Friday,

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> > December 11,

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> > > > 2009, 1:07 PM

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> > > > >     James, I have a Fan

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> > from some

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> > > > guys that advertise in Hot VW. You

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> > > > >     have to cut in to

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> > the heating

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> > >

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> > > > channel and put an in-line fan in

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> > >

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> > > > >     there. West Marine,

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> > or any

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> > > > boat supplier has them as bilge fans.

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> > > > >     You need to mount it

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> > pretty

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> > > > far forward or they will melt. And

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> > > > >     yes, they are noisy,

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> > but they

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> > > > blow really good strong hot air. I

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> > > > >     have a divider

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> > behind my seat

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> > >

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> > > > and it will get too hot in my bus to

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> > > > >     run it non stop. I

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> > have

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> > > > friends up here who have done it in a Bay

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> >

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> > >

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> > > > >     and they were amazed

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> > how much

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> > > > heat it gives off.

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> > > > >     Do it today!

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> > > > >     *From:*

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> > tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > > > [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

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> > > > >     *On Behalf Of *James

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> > Dwan

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> > > > >     *Sent:* Friday,

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> > December 11,

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> > > > 2009 12:16 PM

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> > > > >     *To:*

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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > >

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> > > > >     *Subject:* [tcb] Re:

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> > Heat in a

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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?

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> > > > >     Thats a lot more

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> > expensive!

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> > > > >     I have read that the

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> > plastic

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> > > > tends to melt on those and they are

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> > > > >     loud. Someone

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> >    http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611630889

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> > > > >     But I have no idea

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> > how I would

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> > > > mount it inline. Any ideas?

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> > > > >     --- On *Fri,

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> > 12/11/09, Dan

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> > > > Martin /<danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>/*

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> > > > >     From: Dan Martin

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> > <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>

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> > > > >     Subject: [tcb] Re:

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> > Heat in a

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> > >

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> > > > late Bay... can it be done?

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> > > > >     To:

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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > > > >     Date: Friday,

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> > December 11,

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> > > > 2009, 11:15 AM

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> > > > >     (bilge blower)

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> > > > >     On Dec 11, 2009, at

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> > 10:36 AM,

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> > > > James Dwan wrote:

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> > > > >     > Yeah the window

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> > felts

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> > > > that are on there allow cold air in and

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> > > > >     the jalousies do

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> > too. What is

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> > > > the correct way to replace the

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> > > > >     felts? Start in the

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> > corner or

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> > > > at the vent window?

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> > > > >     >

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> > > > >     > Would a bilge

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> > blower be

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> > > > better? Cheaper? There is a West Marine

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> > > > >     closer than a

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> > Fry's.

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> > > > >     > --- On Fri,

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> > 12/11/09,

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> 

> > > > Edward Maikranz <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > > >     > From: Edward

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> > Maikranz

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> > > > <maikranze@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > > >     > Subject: [tcb]

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> > Re: Heat

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> > > > in a late Bay... can it be done?

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> > > > >     > To:

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> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > > > >     > Date: Friday,

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> > December

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> > > > 11, 2009, 10:22 AM

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> > > > >     > A bilge blower

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> > from a

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> > > > boat mounted in the tube will really make

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> > > > >     a difference.

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> > > > >     > Also, the best

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> > > > do to a bay to stay warm is to really

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> > > > >     work on sealing it

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> > up and

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> > > > keeping the cold air out.

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> > > > >     > Ed Maikranz

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> > > > >     > On Fri, Dec 11,

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> > 2009 at

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> > > > 10:16 AM, James Dwan

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> >    <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>

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> > > > wrote:

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> > > > >     > So I plan on

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> > taking the

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> > > > family to the Prairie Lights next

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> > > > >     weekend (should be

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> > about 3 hrs

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> > > > in the Bus) then up to Grandma's on

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> > > > >     OK for X-mas so i

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> > need a

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> > > > heating solution.

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> > > > >     > So far I have

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> > wrapped the

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > > main tube with solar bubble wrap

> 

> >

> 

> > >

> 

> >

> 

> > > > >     twice, tightened the

> 

> > clasps

> 

> >

> 

> > >

> 

> >

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> > > > around the heater blower motor where

> 

> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > > >     they attach to the

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> > tubes.

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> > > > >     >

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> > > > >     > I was planning

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> > on

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> >

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> > >

> 

> >

> 

> > > > rebuilding the accordion tubes but that

> 

> >

> 

> > >

> 

> >

> 

> > > > >     involves ordering

> 

> > parts and

> 

> >

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