[tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday

  • From: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 13:22:58 -0500

compufire... 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Will Wood 
  To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:37 AM
  Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday


  I didn't find out, are you running points or a pertronix/compufire unit?




    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Trey Jung 
    Sent: May 4, 2008 7:21 AM 
    To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday 

     
    correct on connected to the left port...
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Will Wood 
      To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:09 PM
      Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday



      Okay, on the hesitation issue.  How much mechanical advance do you have 
set for the SVDA.  It shouldn't be more than 30 degrees BTDC.  It could be that 
it's advancing too far and causing the issue under load, however when you're 
accelerating the vacuum signal to the SVDA should be low.  You're connected on 
the left port of the 34 PICT 3 near the idle bypass and mixture screws right?

      On the second issue, you relay could be shot or your solenoid could be 
shot.  You could also have too low of voltage from the battery to trip the 
relay and the solenoid.




        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Trey Jung 
        Sent: May 3, 2008 9:25 PM 
        To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday 


        Guess what.. I went on my little 20  mile "deer run" as I call it and 
stopped about 1/2 as my Berg dipstick was flicking on at 45 mph.... so I go 
back to the engine and I notice the air hose coming from the back of the engine 
to the oil bath nozzle was disconnect.. ( might be a reason it's running hot 
letting the hot air into the engine compartment) connected it then I notice 
that the vacuum connection the top left of the pict 34 coming from the 
diaphragm of the SVDA was not connected, so I connected it... Got in the bus , 
cranked it up and drove.

        The hesitation came back just like before I changed the plugs. Stopped 
the bus went to the back and disconnected that hose coming from the diaphragm 
on the SVDA, guess what , drove fine (as in not jerking, hesitation ) when 
shifting from one gear to the next. Drove a ways disconnected and same thing 
(jerking and missing like at the higher rpm's in the gears)..... Did this 
switch about 4 times to make sure...... now the fun part! 

        Stopped the bus to disconnect the hose (final experiment to get back 
home) got back the bus, turned the key, nothing, no noise, got lights and radio 
, gauge lights all light up, not even a murmur from the starter  or solenoid. I 
do have a hard start relay in it and I checked the fuse and it was blown.. no 
15 amp fuse in the bus.... bummer 

        out in the middle of no where (close to where I got stuck trying to 
chase hogs in the other bus)....

        Finally a guy came by, pushed me off, got home , (forget the cell phone 
too) apologized to the wife... went out to the bus , stuck a 30 amp fuse in the 
hard start relay,,,, nada... nothing.. fuse didn't blow either.... no start....

        2 problems:

        Why does the bus run like crap with the vacuum connected and run ok 
with it not connected.,... a bad vacuum can? (not doing it's job? maybe) bad 
SVDA

        Electrical (blew the hard start relay somehow or a ground came loose) I 
do know if the hard start was blown if the started would turn over. Anyone 
know. Thinking that the hard start blew along with the fuse and power is not 
getting to the started....

        I need a beer.....

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: sammie smith 
          To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:47 PM
          Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday


          Trey:  Spark plugs are critical on the VW engine.  About 9,000-10,000 
miles on a set and that's about it.  I change my plugs, points and condenser 
every 10,000.  If you have a VW engine "cutting out" i.e., missing at higher 
rpm on acceleration the first suspect should be the plugs.  That's not 
necessarily always the problem, but is the most probable.

          Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
            Sammie, 

            Keeping my fingers crossed. I changed the plugs (NGK) and gapped 
them to .026. Drove thru the neighborhood and so far so good. No jerking when 
shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th. trying to talk the wife into going for 
a ride but looks like we will tomorrow. 

            I owe you a beverage of your choice next time I see you. 

            Thanks, 
            Trey
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: sammie smith 
              To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:25 PM
              Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday


              Sounds to me like the plugs could be cutting out.  That's the 
first thing I would do; change the spark plugs.

              Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
                Right before you shift from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th, the bus 
jerks at the end of the rpm spectrum. I don't have a tach in it but at around 
25 mph (in 2nd) the bus jerks then I shift to 3rd it's ok until I get ready at 
35 to 40 mph shift to 4th, same thing happens, bus jerks , pulsates....


                The other day on the highway it started doing this at 55 mph in 
4th.... Freaked me out. I've changed the coil, spark plug wires twice and still 
same symptoms. Running an SVDA with a compufire it in, could the compufire be 
going out? I think these things will just fail.
                I'm sure everyone is out in their buses today enjoying 
beautiful weather, 

                I'm trying to get ready for Spicewood. 

                any suggestions please let me know. I did take the pict 34 off 
a few weeks ago and cleaned it up, blew out all the jets and all that..Plus 
took the fuel pump and cleaned the screen and installed a new fuel filter.

                Trey



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