Then again, during WWII fuel rationing a "fuel saving measure" was to put a piece of wood, like a 2x4, under the gas pedal.. ;-) -----Original Message----- >From: Neil <nbmdude@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Nov 28, 2007 10:55 AM >To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [tcb] Re: Anyone ever heard or seen this before? is it snakeoil ? > >One of my stepdad's good old boyz buddies said he >dumped a cup of tranny oil in the tank to lube to top >end every now and then...Thoughts on this? Anyone >heard of anything similar? >--- sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Probably not worth the cost. If you want some upper >> cylinder lube dump some oil in the gas tank. >> >> Mark Sawyer <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: So what >> is the answer from the more experienced (I wasn't >> going to say older) VWers about whether the oiler is >> a good idea or not??? >> >> sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> In some cases tight is good but not in VW valve >> adjustment. >> >> Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } >> body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; >> FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } everytime i run my valves i >> notice hardley any difference in the feeler gauge >> from what they were set on...perhaps this is because >> i do it about once a month (600 miles tops). i was a >> bit concerned with that untill i was told that is a >> good thing that a tight valve is the no bueno type >> situation >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:19:25 -0800 >> From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [tcb] Re: Anyone ever heard or seen this >> before? is it snakeoil ? >> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Where there are engineers there are always lots of >> opinions. Both Steve and Denis should be able to >> speak with experience on trashed valves. >> >> Will's right about watching the adjustment; and if >> one keeps getting tight on you it's a darn good idea >> to pull the head before catastrophe happens. I used >> to have a VW powered airplane (Evans VP-1) and after >> every 50 or so hours of flying time I would yank the >> heads and replace all exhaust valves. >> >> Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The kit is similar to the Marvel oiler. The Marvel >> oiler in my opinion >> has better control but top end cylinder lubrication >> is always a good >> thing. Water injection will also give you similar >> results but it's more >> difficult to control. >> >> It definitely helps a Judson Engine stay alive but I >> don't know if I >> agree about all of the other statements they make in >> their ad. >> >> >> Exhaust valve seat recession can result, a >> >> condition where valve and seat materials adhere >> to and erode each >> >> other, with the valve migrating up >> >> into the head. >> >> If you severly overheat the engine or have crappy >> heads or valve work >> done this can also happen which is more common. >> Running the engine >> lean, bad timing or heavy loads all contribute to >> the heat issue. The >> 10% Ethanol in Gas doesn't help either since it >> leans out the mixture. >> >> >> As this occurs, valve stem to rocker tip >> clearance is reduced. If >> >> this clearance reduces >> >> to zero, the valve no longer closes, resulting in >> a burned valve. >> >> That's why you adjust your valves... Valves have >> more of a tendancy to >> stretch from fatigue. Any time you have a valve >> "tighten up" it is a >> cause for concern since normally the clearance >> should stay relatively >> the same. >> >> If you run moly pushrods you should run them "loose >> zero" since the >> engine expands as it warms up. Steel doesn't expand >> like aluminum does. >> >> Any valve failure can occur if the parts are >> questionable. Like reusing >> exhaust valves which result in the most damaging >> catastrophies. Even if >> you have great parts it can happen. I lost a seat in >> a set of CB Street >> Eliminators after 1200 miles on the engine. I also >> know of another >> person who had two valve guides come loose and the >> seating area cracked >> around the guides on a brand new set of CB heads >> after 900 miles on the >> heads. This isn't inexpensive stuff either... >> >> My rule of thumb on a street engine is every 35-40K >> miles the heads come >> off and the exhaust valves are replaced along with a >> valve job. >> >> >> >> On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 02:46 -0600, Trey Jung wrote: >> > >> > http://www.ampcolubes.com./vw.html >> > >> > >> > There's an ad on thesamba.com too .......... Just >> wondering.... >> > >> > Trey >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> You keep typing, we keep giving. Download >> Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. Join in! >> >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you >with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ >