Thanks for all your help Kind Regards Gerhard Erasmus Neville Clarence Technologies Mobile: +27 (0) 82 782-8598 From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 14 May 2009 04:10 PM To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: E71 Keyboard was: RE: N97 and N86? Eleanor "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs". qwerty keypads on phones are a matter of personal preference. Some people think them stupid, some people think them brilliant. Personally I don't like them as I find I can type faster just using the numbers, whereas others say they type faster using the qwerty method. So it's down to the individual stupid or otherwise! Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: ELEANOR BURKE <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: E71 Keyboard was: RE: N97 and N86? I have the e71 for about 3 days now. Just liked it when I saw it in the shop and hoped for the best. When it arrived on Monday I was not at all sure. Now and even Monday evening I was absolutely delighted with it. Not so sure I would go along with what Mat Brown says about the keyboard being 'stupid' just Math's turn of phraise. It is true it does not have the exact layhout as your large desktop conventional qwerty keyboard but let's face it, it does a brilliant job. I am not totally familiar with it as yet but if there is anything tedious then it is the fact that one has to press the Function key and then the number which you want to put in the text box or whatever. The punctuation keys are a little bit all over the place but at least the main ones, , . ; are grouped together and the / and @ signs are again toggled key, 3rd key in on the left bottom row. There is a key which when I hit it, it says Edit, which is a nonsense as the function it carries out is to produce an Initial Caps. If pressed again the Edit key will repeat the word Edit and this time it is ALL CAPS. Why the spacebar has to be so large I am not sure. Oh yes the backspace key is in a silly place on the right, I remember it as 3rd up on the right. All a matter of getting used to. Personally I found the best way to get to know the keyboard was to go in to Talks training mode and play around. After that I spent time in a word document writing anything at all and just getting used to the keyboard layout. I am sure all of you word processors and partickularly you typists are used to the good old sentence for inclusion of all the 26 letters of the alphabet and just to refresh your minds it is. The little brown fox jujps quickly over the lazy dog. Writing this over and over again familiarised me with the layout. then I began to introduce the punctuation, correct errors etc. Now it is just a matter of gaining speed and profecikency. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerhard Erasmus <mailto:gerhard@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: [talks-uk] E71 Keyboard was: RE: N97 and N86? Hi Can you please clarify your statement about the E71 keyboard being "completely stupid"? I am interested In getting it and am now a little concerned. Did you ever look at the E61 keyboard? If you did, what did you think of it? Kind Regards Gerhard Erasmus Neville Clarence Technologies Mobile: +27 (0) 82 782-8598 From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: 14 May 2009 03:27 PM To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] N97 and N86? Hi, I've just checked with T-mobile in the UK and they aren't going to be getting the N86 sadly. It also doesn't look as if they'll be getting the N97. I still can't decide which phone to get! Someone said that the N85 is also compatible with Talks but it isn't in the list of phones published by Nuance. I only hope the N86 will be because the list of accessible phones that are new or current is getting thinner, has anyone else noticed that? I know Nokia are bringing out more touch-screen phones, and obviously they're out for us, but there isn't really a sensible alternative to Talks on a Nokia. The Windows based phones crash all the time, and the Mobile Speak system isn't the best in the World, what are we going to do? I hear that the N97 is unlikely to be supported by Nuance because it integrates a touch screen as well, but according to Nokia the phone is completely accessible via the qwerty keyboard so the touch screen isn't necessary. I wonder if Nuance will rethink that one. Just interested in what other people think. I had a look at the E71 and absolutely hate it! The keyboard on it is completely stupid! Matt _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1512 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4075 (20090514) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com