I don't think the unlocking of the phone has anything to do with the performance or what works and doesn't on the phone... In fact, I would be quite sure of that. The reason you can't update firmware on the Vodafone or any other branded phones is the same as it was which is that the networks decide what bits they want adding or taking away from the firmware release then the phone manufacturer goes back, makes the changes and at some point in the distant future, the customer finally gets the update relased. _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE Sent: 14 May 2009 15:14 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86? Vodafone now have their contract phones unlocked but of curse they are branded. I am of the opinion (and maybe Barbra is too, I do not know) but if a branded phone is thenunlocked its functionality is not quite the same as prior to the unlocking. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Wilson <mailto:barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86? Steve, I do agree that the N79 is a lovely phone and works excellently with TALKS. I just got put off with my faulty one, or more precisely which Nokia messing me around with it. Also, after they sent it back it had problems it didn't have when they got it. Mat, I know people who have used the N85, so it works okay with TALKS. I too always get phones SIM-Free as I don't like unlocking. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Nutt To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86? Hi Matt, The N97 won't be supported not only because it is touch, but because it is Symbian Fifth Edition, not Third. Fifth will only be supported when there are more than one or two phones that use it I would imagine. The N79 is a lovely phone. I know Barbara will disagree, but I have had mine a week and it is great. Wifi works fine on my one. N86 is going to be a good phone when it is out, but if you depend on operators, you may be unlucky. I always say the best way to buy a phone is Sim-Free. Then it is unbranded, and not tampered with by the operator. Expensive yes, but you usually get a better phone. Having said that, I got my N79 with T-Mobile, simply because they offered it to me for free. All the best Steve _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: Thursday 14 May 2009 14:27 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] N97 and N86? Hi, I've just checked with T-mobile in the UK and they aren't going to be getting the N86 sadly. It also doesn't look as if they'll be getting the N97. I still can't decide which phone to get! Someone said that the N85 is also compatible with Talks but it isn't in the list of phones published by Nuance. I only hope the N86 will be because the list of accessible phones that are new or current is getting thinner, has anyone else noticed that? I know Nokia are bringing out more touch-screen phones, and obviously they're out for us, but there isn't really a sensible alternative to Talks on a Nokia. The Windows based phones crash all the time, and the Mobile Speak system isn't the best in the World, what are we going to do? I hear that the N97 is unlikely to be supported by Nuance because it integrates a touch screen as well, but according to Nokia the phone is completely accessible via the qwerty keyboard so the touch screen isn't necessary. I wonder if Nuance will rethink that one. Just interested in what other people think. I had a look at the E71 and absolutely hate it! The keyboard on it is completely stupid! Matt __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4075 (20090514) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1512 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message.