Yes Lynn; it's not right, and the employer should have been banking money those 20 years so he could pay the xyz no matter what happens during the bad times. that's what the state of Florida has been doing, but the legislators think it's looking bad to the rest of the state when employees get their xyz (which is in the bank already); and perhaps, they have it in their minds to get it out of the bank and use it for something else (who can say whether they could do that or not); but it's more about how it looks to others, and that really frosts my shorts that they can't even be bothered to defend the fairness of it. Chip -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:40 AM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: article from Democrat: opinion piece on public employees What gets my goat is: An employee from what ever company puts in his hours for 20 or more years with the understanding that his employee will get XYZ. Then here comes someone else and say to bad, we are on hard times so the employees will now get less then XYZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: [tabi] Re: article from Democrat: opinion piece on public employees > Yes, the legislature has become way far to the right! They don't > understand > we are not just employees we are citizens and voters! They are wanting to > treat us like a private business, But you can't because we are not just > employees we are citizens and voters. So they need to think about this. > Now > this being said I am saying more than I should now. I am a legislature > employee and I can not take part in any of this. The reason is it is > against > the legislature rules and this could be consider a firing fence. So I > encourage everyone to email the Governor and Senator and Repersentive. Not > just their own but all of them. I hope the best for us. Sorry about not > being able to voice my opinion any where else. The only reason I say what > I > have is I am not using my real ID. But even that if someone really wanted > to > could still find out. Good luck to you all! > > > > > Sign, > Joe Plummer ( JP ) > joeplummer@xxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > Of Chip Orange > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:58 PM > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tabi] article from Democrat: opinion piece on public employees > > Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda: > Public employees must flex their muscle > Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda > * My View * April 14, 2010 > > The public employees of Florida and those who have retired are a real > economic and political force. > It is time to make your power known. > Public servants of Florida are under attack, and it is time to stand up > and > demand the respect you deserve. I'm talking about all of you - the > teachers > and university professors, law enforcement and firefighters, correctional > officers, and all of the state and local government employees who make our > state run. Without your hard work and dedication, Florida would come to a > standstill. > This constant drumbeat to make public servants pay for the bad decisions > of > previous legislatures that gave tax breaks during the good times to the > rich > has got to stop. These threats are already taking a toll on the economy; > if > you are facing a pay cut, higher insurance costs or other salary > deductions, > are you looking at a new home, car or appliance? I don't think so. > For almost five years running, state employees have been denied raises > while > Wall Street has pocketed millions in tax dollars. Now my Republican > colleagues in the Florida Legislature are adding insult to injury by > trying > to balance their short- sighted, ill-conceived budget on your backs. > Here's > what they have been considering: > A 3-percent pay cut. > Requiring you to pay more for health care. > Require a contribution to your pension. > They are even considering breaking the > promise of a decent retirement by changing the way pensions are > calculated.Together, we must remind those who would take money out of your > pocket that such a move is bad for business, and bad for the economy of > Florida. These bills could easily result in an average loss of $50 for > each > of the more than > 1 million retired and current public > employees in Florida. State, county and > municipal employees, university faculty and staff, teachers, police, > firefighters, forestry and marine officers - all could be affected. > Fifty million dollars buys a lot of pizza, shoes, and even cars.One way to > let the political powers know how much of an economic force you are is to > put the shopkeepers you frequent on notice. Every time you buy something, > let the person behind the counter know that you are a public employee and > that, if legislators succeed in cutting your income, you won't have any > money to spend in their restaurant or shop. Invite them to write or call > their legislator and tell them how badly the cuts will hurt the economy, > their economy. Let them know they can make their concerns known by > contacting their representative and senator. You can find their e-mail > address or regular mail address at www.myfloridahouse. > gov and www.flsenate.gov. Public pressure does work. > When you consider that every dollar spent turns over six or seven times in > the local economy, taking $50 out of your disposable income will have a > total monthly negative effect on the businesses of Florida amounting to > $350 > million. > Over the next year, a monthly $50 loss in your income will have annual > negative $4.2 billion impact on Florida's economy. Count the spaghetti > dinners that won't be eaten, the dresses and flowers that won't be > purchased, or the houses that will remain unsold. How may restaurants, > shops > or home businesses will close because of bad decisions made in > Tallahassee? > These dire economic predictions don't have to come true. You vote, and so > do > your spouses, parents, neighbors and friends. When you add everyone > together, I'm betting you have a combined strength of 2 million or more > votes each election. > Two million votes is real political muscle, and it's time to let > legislative > leaders who think you can cause them no harm know that you and the other 2 > million public employees and their families and friends will remember when > the time comes. > Together you can send a powerful message, but you have to do it now. 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