[tabi] Re: PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro (850) 891-5283 or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
- From: Lighthouse of the Big Bend <lighthousebigbend@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:48:57 -0400
No way Robert - I can not believe it is an answering machine! heavy sigh...
I guess we should leave our name & address and concern?
On 10/27/09, Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You go chip,
>
> Try calling the nova2010 number and guess what, You got it! answering
> machine.
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:45 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro (850)
> 891-5283 or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>> I'm sorry, but I disagree completely, and I'm sorry your history is so
>> incomplete.
>>
>> When we as a nation passed the civil rights legistlation, such as the
>> civil
>> rights voting act, in the mid 60s, it was overwhelming disapproved of by
>> the
>> popular vote. that's right, the numbers were completely against it.
>>
>> but our high courts, and eventually the supreme court, said the law is the
>> law, and we have to do it, and everyone was given the right to vote, and
>> "separate but equal" education was struck down, all at a time when the
>> population was dead set against.
>>
>> and no one said "well, how many are we talking about" and, no one else
>> said
>> "well, do you have the money to pay for this?"; because when the law says
>> you have to do it, then you've got to do it.
>>
>> I'm sure Mr. Garrison understands this, but I believe he's trying to
>> distract the conversation away from that one fact by mentioning numbers
>> that
>> themselves, if he's lucky, will cause a big debait, and everyone will
>> forget
>> the obligation to the ADA.
>>
>> I'm at home sick today, but I felt I had to answer at least this one
>> message.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Blackjack
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:04 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro (850)
>> 891-5283 or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> It might be the law but do you have the money to spend in court to see if
>> you can prove it? Also The big word comes back up reasonable. What is
>> reasonable to you might not be reasonable to someone else. Also it has
>> always been about the numbers. Every law we have has been about numbers.
>> It
>> takes in most passive of a legislation to be come law 1 more than half the
>> voting body. Also most things does not come up to have a chance to become
>> law if there is not enough people wanting the law or they have hired a
>> powerful lobbies. This has been the way since we have became a independent
>> Country. Before that we lived under the Rule of England. So to say it is
>> not
>> about the number this is just not true. Just some of my thoughts. I still
>> say a petition is the way to go and don't know that will do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Blackjack
>> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:39 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro (850)
>> 891-5283 or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> you know, it's not about numbers; regardless of how many people are
>> effected, equal access is the law, and it has to be obeyed regardless of
>> whether you can show only a few will be adversely effected or not.
>>
>> picture some post civil rights issue occurring, say locating polling
>> places
>> only in predominantly white neighborhoods for example, and then officials
>> saying it was ok because a relatively small number of black people voted
>> in
>> the last election, and thus this would only inconvenience a small number
>> of
>> people! utterly ridiculous, and we all know it.
>>
>> Mr. Garrison needs to be made to understand that this is also a civil
>> right
>> he's talking about dismissing "because it only effects about a dozen
>> people".
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:55 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro (850)
>>> 891-5283 or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> That's a bunch of crap. There were more than 12 at the last TCB
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lighthouse of the Big Bend" <lighthousebigbend@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "tabi" <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:29 PM
>>> Subject: [tabi] PLEASE make your voice heard re: Star Metro
>>> (850) 891-5283
>>> or nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> > This morning on WFSU several of us at the Lighthouse heard an
>>> > interview with Ron Garrison about the Star Metro changes. About the
>>> > concerns, (loosely paraphrased) he said, ' There are about
>>> 500 people
>>> > who are elderly or disabled who are regular riders. Of those 500,
>>> > about 150 are being inconvenienced, and Star Metro is hearing from
>>> > only 12 of those people, so the problem is being exagerated."
>>> >
>>> > We know that more than 12 people are upset about this - but
>>> > apparently, only a dozen or so are actually going to the "Listening
>>> > Sessions" or complaining in a way Star Metro is documenting.
>>> >
>>> > PLEASE make your voice heard officially by calling their designated
>>> > Nova2010 Hotline, (850) 891-5283, or via email
>>> > nova2010project(at)talgov(dot)com nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > Otherwise, Ron Garrision and the rest of the City of
>>> Tallahassee will
>>> > go on believing that only 12 people have a big enough
>>> problem with it
>>> > to make thier voices heard.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for considering it!
>>> >
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>>> > Guiding People Through Vision Loss
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