I don't want to start a huge discussion. But would it make sense to discuss more than just sugar propellants? I was just thinking it might get a better audience since some that do sugar also does others. A lot of the same testing goes on. You guys do the most talking and I've been away for a while. It's no biggy. I could create one for others if it's going to be confusing. At least a way to cover all solid propellants either way. I was talking to the local club and a couple do sugars but for the most part other propellants. So always seems mixed group. Michael Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone