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DR
Sorry, where is  proof of your facts?
 
Stanley
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 11:01 am
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparksco ffee] Re: Re: Re: Re: [sp arkscoffee] 
Re:Ins...


 
  
   
We do no such thing.  I'm just stating facts.  You want to disagree with facts, 
you do so alone.    
    
   
   
Don't be presumptious please, don't say that we agree to disagree when we have 
no such agreement.    
    
   
   
I don't like such communist tactics of saying things very often so people 
suppose they are true.    
    
   
   
For the record:  I don't agree to disagree unless I tell you so.    
   
   
    
   
Best wishes,   
   
  
David  
  
   
    
     
      
      
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Redacted sender        sblumen123@xxxxxxx for 
DMARC        <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:       
       
                  
DR         
          
We agree to disagree         
          
          
          
Stanley         
          
          
          
          
          
          -----Original Message-----
 From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
 To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
          
           
 Sent: Wed, Feb 18, 2015 3:47 pm            
 Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparksco ffee] Re: Re: Re: Re: [sp arkscoffee] 
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 No, Stanley, read up more.  The Government owns the banks.  Private ownership 
of business is permitted and private property is allowed and most of all, 
capitalism is allowed.               
               
 Foreign ownership and Chinese ownership share in operating private industries 
alongside state-owned industries. The share of private industry in the economy 
has grown, and today it includes health care and education. The private sector 
employs more than the public sector. According to Business Week in 2005, the    
           private sector accounts for 70 percent of the nation's GDP – a 
figure many believe to be an under-estimation.                 
http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch37-econ6.htm               
               
 So it's isn't really Marxism, at least like the Russians and others did it.    
           
               
 It's much closer to Capitalism with private ownership of businesses, but there 
still are some elements of government ownership but the majority of what 
produces Gross Domestic Product (70%) is capitalist, not communist.             
  
               
 73               
               
 R              
              
               
               
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 DR                  
                  
 Pay attention, non Chinese citizens are not allowed to own property or 
buisnesse in China but cizens are.. The State not only controls propery, 
buisnesses and gulogs but also owns property, buisnesse like ship building      
            
                  
 and gulogs.                  
                  
                    
                  
 Pity on you, RR, JS etc have it so hard pretending not to notice the 800 pound 
Chinese gorilla and much of the other stuff I post from time to time. Do you 
fellers sleep OK at night with this problem?                  
                  
                    
                  
 Stanley                  
                  
                    
                  
                    
                  
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 From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
 To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                    
                    
 Sent: Wed, Feb 18, 2015 2:28 pm                     
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China has private property.

Comrade, you have to tell us what type of Marxism you want to talk about.

China is capitalism but with State control of the banks and gulags for
people who want political freedoms..

David

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
for DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> JS, RR, DR, etc.
> My dear self praising psudo intelectual. Note RR & DR refering to past
> history to
> justify their wacko conclusions which virtually no one agrees to except some
> other wackos. You and them pretending not to notice the 800 pound Chinese
> gorrilla's continuing stream of successes like the plague. Your only single
> comment
> is their low scale of pay ignoring high, medium and low technology
> manufacturing,
> their universitys to produce the engineers and scientists necessary, biggest
> market
> for cars, more then ours, competing for oil, net work of high tech Bullet
> Trains, fleet
> of giant container ships, a second canal in the works, Cruise Ships comming,
> Chinese tourists all over the world, buying our best properties and
> buisnesses, etc.,
>  etc. etc. Think, think, think.
>
> Stanley
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2015 4:11:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Stanly,
>
> You seem to be confused. Nazism and Communism are simply mechanisms of power
> and control. Their whole purpose is to give complete and irrevocable  power
> to the criminals that have seized it. You are under the delusion that
> Communism is predicated upon some moral basis.It is not. And history has
> confirmed that.
>
> The Jews that embraced Communism thought they were going to be protected by
> it. They weren't. They were liquidated along with the rest of the
> intelligentsia because people that can think are always a threat to
> criminals who control by fear, intimidation and lies.
>
> It's no accident that Hitler valued Joseph (the Big Lie) Gobbles as much as
> he did. Nor Stalin and Castro butchering millions of people they feared. And
> rest assured, you and those that think like you would be among the FIRST to
> receive a bullet or at best, a trip to the gulag if the Communist were to
> take over here.
>
> I understand you are living in a fantastical comfort zone. But you are never
> going to win a moral or intellectual argument with DR or RR (or even me for
> that matter) by extolling the virtues of Communism, which is the
> quintessence of evil in the modern world.
> Has it ever occurred to you that ISIS and the rest of the rabid head
> choppers and man burners are structured like Stalinist communists? The only
> difference is they use the Koran as their justification for sick and evil
> deeds instead of the
> Communist Manifesto.
>
> But I suppose at this stage of your life you, any opening of your mind would
> be terminal.
>
> JS
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "sblumen123@xxxxxxx"
> for DMARC)
> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
> [sparkscoffee] Re:Inside Orland o’s first machine gun theme park
> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:04:14 -0500
>
> RR
> Your tieing NAZI state and COMMUNIST state together is a brainless dream of
> yours that I, China, Viet Nam, Cuba and all Communists and even non
> Communists would accept..
> Too many examples to show how they opposed each other and how one failed and
> the other continues to succeed. How do do you explain China, Viet Nam, Cuba,
> and all the
> various communist parties all over the world? Who said Hitler, ISIS, or any
> government had the right to murder whom they pleased? What do you have to
> say about China's
> accomplishments?
>
> Comrade B
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
> To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 15, 2015 2:15 pm
> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
> Inside Orland o’s first machine gun theme park
>
> Stan,
> It is about NAZI's and the trials after WW2.  They were found guillty of
> violating natural law and sentenced.
> In NAZI Germany the legislature voted to give Hitler full authority of all
> three branches of government.  What Hitler ordered was automatically a law
> of the Reich, and lawful because he had said it.
> Here is my question (again):  Does a superior authority above man made
> government State exist as Nurenburg ruled, or do all our rights come solely
> from government, the State?
> You caught Stan, if you say State alone then you can support Communism, but
> you are also saying that if there is nothing except the State that gives
> rights, then the NAZIs were perfectly right to murder millions of
> undesirables including Jews.
> Just to let you know, that's one of the reasons I cannot support Communism
> because what Hitler did was murder even though it was legal.
> 73
> DR
> On Feb 15, 2015 1:53 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC" <
> dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> DR
>> You ask a lot of questions but you answer a very few, why? Your link said
>> the video is not currently available and the text was very long and I
>> am too busy with other items, sorry to disappoint you.
>>
>> Stanley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. < n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: sparkscoffee < sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 11:27 am
>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
>> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Inside Orland o’s first machine gun
>> theme park
>>
>> Stan,
>> Do you think the State should be held to a higher standard when it comes
>> to the giving of rights?
>> I'm just asking if you agree with the International Courts at Nuremberg
>> convicting the Nazis of their hate crimes against the Jews and others?
>>
>>
>> From
>> http://www.thirteen.org/openmind/history/hitlers-courts-betrayal-of-the-rule-of-law-in-nazi-germany-one-hour-special/1814/
>>
>> GLICKSTEIN: Our Declaration of Independence talks about certain
>> “inalienable rights” and among those rights are life, liberty and the
>> pursuit of happiness. That’s natural law. I mean it doesn’t … that’s not
>> written any place, the Founding Fathers all believed that there were certain
>> rights that people just had as human beings; that they were entitled to. And
>> I think those sort of principles, which are principles of morality … they
>> can be stated other ways … you can … some people say well these are rights
>> that come from God. And other people say they’re just inherent in the fact
>> that you’re a human being.
>> You don't have to believe in God - that is a leap of faith or reason as
>> there are several proofs of the existance of God using scientific method -
>> but not physical science but logic and philosophy which are both sciences.
>> Stan, does natural law exist?  Is the State the ONLY thing that gives us
>> rights?
>> Your answer please?
>> 73
>> DR
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Redacted sender sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
>> DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> The DR Manifesto
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Stan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
>>> To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 7:32 am
>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Inside
>>> Orland o’s first machine gun theme park
>>>
>>> RR,
>>> Many people live in abject poverty, Catholic or not.  Even the pope
>>> apologized for what he says was a misinterpreted quote about rabbits.  You
>>> do not have to take chemicals or use mechanical objects to make sure you
>>> have no children, you can abstain from sexual intercourse, in that way
>>> married people are the same as single people who are celibate, which is what
>>> they should be unless they are married.
>>> Without doubt there is a continuum of development to children in the
>>> womb.  However genetically from the moment of conception, there is life and
>>> that life is completely different from either the mother or the father.
>>> The world certainly has enough capability to feed and house all the
>>> people living on it.
>>> However we are divided on how to accomplish this.  We have the communists
>>> who have one idea, the capitalists who have another, the socialists who are
>>> mini-communists, we have those who want to redistribute wealth through
>>> taxes, and we have those advocate redistributing wealth by voluntary
>>> contribution of goods and services, education and charity towards others.
>>> I am of the last group.  I contribute to various efficient charities -
>>> the word coming from Charitas - Christian love - to different groups whose
>>> ministry is something that I am interested in.  I avoid groups that advocate
>>> mercy killing and abortion.  It is my money and I am spending it.  I tutor
>>> children in science and mathematics as well as reading.
>>> I do not like most institutes of higher education but I am very happy
>>> that there are private institutes of higher education that can issue PhD and
>>> other degrees without teaching what I call "communist lies" like global
>>> warming and the femi-nazi agenda of the destruction of family by undermining
>>> the social value of the father.  I can plainly see the increase in gun
>>> violence is linked to "fatherless" male children.  Children have been made
>>> "fatherless" by no-fault divorce where there is no possibility of rebuttal.
>>> Contrary to what RR says, there are marriages where there are vows made
>>> under oath and with witnesses that are covenant marriages but the courts
>>> have ruled that these can be broken for any reason including "no reason" by
>>> either party at any time and the other party cannot rebutt the action.
>>> In other words, the father cannot protect his family, the wife can abort
>>> their child without the father being able to protect that child.
>>> These are unjust laws and as Dr. Martin Luther King said quoting the
>>> legal maxim first attributed to St. Augustine that "An unjust law is no law
>>> at all - Lex iniusta non est lex:     One has not only a legal but a moral
>>> responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility
>>> to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law
>>> is no law at all”.  — [ MLK, Letter from a Birmingham Jail (1963)]
>>>
>>> There is a way of looking at the world from a single vantage point, but
>>> we may not know it precisely but we certainly know where there are grave
>>> lies justice cannot reside.
>>> Without truth there is no justice, and justice is the "Queen of the
>>> Virtues".
>>> That's why the legal system of the USA is in such trouble, the judges
>>> lie, the lawyers lie, it is "The House of the Liars" and certainly there is
>>> no justice there.
>>> However there are still some morally good lawyers and jurists who
>>> understand that statute law has to be based on natural law and if it isn't
>>> the judges are just pulling their decisions out of their egos based on
>>> nothing because they believe the law is based on nothing.  This is the
>>> greatest danger we face.
>>> Remember and I always address non-believing Jews when I say this - Hitler
>>> and his armies completely obeyed the National Laws of Germany when they
>>> gassed millions of Jews, Catholics, Gypsies (who speak a non-European
>>> language), disabled people, retarded people who they reasoned were
>>> "expensive to care for".
>>> However the International Courts held that there was a Natural Law under
>>> which their actions were criminal and they were convicted under that Natural
>>> Law.
>>> Of course if there is a natural law which is not random, it must have
>>> been made by intelligence, by the fabricator or creator of nature.
>>> Which leads us back to RR's objection of the basis of Law being
>>> theological, and again I make my point that the USA was founded on natural
>>> law and that our rights were given to us by God and not the State.
>>>
>>> Under Communism all rights come from the State and the State can decide
>>> which rights we have and do not have.  Just like Hitler, the Jews had no
>>> rights to live.
>>> I can never understand how Jews can support Communism - at least a
>>> Godless Communism where the State is the giver of all rights.  I thought
>>> they would have learned their lesson from Hitler.
>>> 73
>>> R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> DR and JS,
>>>> One thing that all of these arguments have in common is that they
>>>> confuse religious indoctrination with reality.
>>>>
>>>> Buddhists believe that all life is sacred and that it is wrong to kill a
>>>> fly. I respect that. But aren't plants also alive? There are plants that 
>>>> are
>>>> aware of their surroundings. Many plants move if you touch them. All are
>>>> aware of the sun.  Some catch insects and digest them. Babies in the womb
>>>> are not SELF aware because their brains are not yet developed to that 
>>>> stage.
>>>> "I think therefore I am".
>>>>
>>>> There is no practical difference between pulling the plug on a person
>>>> who is living but whose brain activity has stopped and aborting a fetus
>>>> whose brain activity has not yet begun.
>>>>
>>>> Old people with dimentia are certainly self aware.
>>>>
>>>> There are millions upon millions of poor families in the, especially
>>>> Catholics, who breed like rabbits because they either cannot afford birth
>>>> control, are too ignorant to practice birth control, or their religion
>>>> prohibits birth control and abortion. They live in abject poverty which is
>>>> nearly impossible to escape from because every penny they earn is used just
>>>> to buy food. They raise children that are uneducated even when education is
>>>> free because there is no incentive to learn. Most of those families the
>>>> father desserts because the financial burden of feeding so many mouths is
>>>> just too overwhelming, but not before they've turned to alcohol or drugs. I
>>>> see it everyday and it breaks my heart because there is no solution.
>>>>
>>>> The religious propaganda you spout was used by the ruling classes to
>>>> create a permanent underclass that could be used as a steady supply of 
>>>> cheap
>>>> labor and as pawns in wars for the amusement of kings when it became
>>>> necessary to thin the population. We have entered an age where this
>>>> underclass is becoming less and less useful as computers and robots perform
>>>> the tasks that they were bred for. The only possible future I see for them
>>>> is one that is filled with horror.
>>>>
>>>> I had to laugh when JS said that abortion is wrong but it's OK to kill
>>>> in war. That's classic religious hypocracy.
>>>>
>>>> Dream on.
>>>>
>>>> -RR
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx"
>>>> Sent: Feb 13, 2015 7:35 PM
>>>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Inside Orland o’s first machine gun theme
>>>> park
>>>>
>>>> DR
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you. And would add that, except for rape, a woman's
>>>> "choice" ends with her choice to have intercourse. As you point out, a baby
>>>> in the womb is a separte entity which a woman doesn't have a moral right to
>>>> terminate because it may be inconvient  for her plans.
>>>>
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." < n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Inside
>>>> Orlando’s first machine gun theme park
>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:25:39 -0500
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Baby in womb has awareness, the science has been in for years.  Search
>>>> for videos on partial birth abortion or baby in womb awareness, etc.  You
>>>> will learn quite a bit.  From moments after conception, that developing 
>>>> baby
>>>> is a distinct, unique, individual.  Dependant, but no longer "the woman's
>>>> body", it is a separate body, needing care and protection to be sure.
>>>> 73
>>>> DR
>>>> On Feb 13, 2015 7:02 PM, "Ron Ristad" < ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> DR and Stan,
>>>>> I moved to a country that has never been in a war and doesn't even have
>>>>> an army. It's one of the reasons I moved here.
>>>>>
>>>>> The execution of murderers should be decided by a jury of their peers.
>>>>> I believe there are cases of justifiable homicide.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't hesitate to shoot to kill somebody who was trying to kill me
>>>>> or other people in my immediate vicinity, but as far as some dictator in
>>>>> another country murdering people, I may disapprove of it but it is none of
>>>>> my business. I believe in defending myself but not aggression against
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>> To the best of my knowledge a baby in the womb has no self awareness
>>>>> and therefore an abortion is not taking a human life.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've studied the evidence and do not believe in global warning or that,
>>>>> even if there were global warming, carbon dioxide from burning fossil 
>>>>> fuels
>>>>> could be the cause of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am always hungry for more knowledge and all of my opinions are
>>>>> subject to change if and when new information presents itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> -RR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>>>> Sent: Feb 13, 2015 1:47 PM
>>>>> To: " sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
>>>>> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Inside Orlando’s 
>>>>> first
>>>>> machine gun theme park
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I could shoot a thousand people and stop the extermination by Hitler
>>>>> of thousands of Jews, handicapped, Catholics, and others at concentration
>>>>> camps, I would.
>>>>> What say you, RR?  Is that murder to prevent the slaughter of
>>>>> thousands, nay, millions of people?
>>>>> Or are you one of those people that believe in global warming but don't
>>>>> believe in the Nazi Holocaust, think it's OK for a woman to kill her
>>>>> husband's child, but has a fit if someone cuts down a tree?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> DR
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Redacted sender sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
>>>>> DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RR, DR
>>>>>> Is it murder to execute a murderer or a policeman who kills a shooter
>>>>>> about to shoot again, or to drop bombs on Nazi occupied countries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WWII MM Vet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ron Ristad < ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: sparkscoffee < sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 10:47 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
>>>>>> [sparkscoffee] Inside Orlando’s first machine gun theme park
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The murder you speak of is defined by the government. Is it murder to
>>>>>> kill people in a war? Is it murder for Obama to kill hundreds of innocent
>>>>>> women and children with drone strikes as well as suspected "terrorists" 
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> were never given a trial?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marriage contracts do not specify "until death do us part". You're
>>>>>> confusing contract law with religious beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Murder isn't control. Control is making somebody do something for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somebody has been brainwashed but it's not me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>>>>> Sent: Feb 12, 2015 8:15 PM
>>>>>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Inside
>>>>>> Orlando’s first machine gun theme park
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, then we should try the woman for murder.
>>>>>> Also "freedom" of divorce in todays courts means absolute freedom from
>>>>>> a contract made.
>>>>>> It is the only place a contract can be ended one sided.
>>>>>> Killing an unborn child isn't controlling?
>>>>>> Boy, have you been brainwashed.
>>>>>> DR
>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2015 9:56 AM, "Ron Ristad" < ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DR,
>>>>>>> Nobody should be able to force a woman to give birth to a child if
>>>>>>> she doesn't want to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having to pay child support and not being allowed to see the child is
>>>>>>> a case of making a bad choice in a mate and/or of having made other bad
>>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to force a woman to bear a child then you want control
>>>>>>> over her life and are no different than a communist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to deny a woman the freedom of divorce, for any reason,
>>>>>>> then you are no different than a communist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The man you describe is called a "controlling personality".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many things in life we simply have no control over. We have no
>>>>>>> control over other people, unless we force them at the point of a gun 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that kind of control is only temporary. The best we can do is live our 
>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>> according to our own moral principles. We cannot force our moral 
>>>>>>> principles
>>>>>>> on others. Nor should we be surprised when others do not share our moral
>>>>>>> principles, even though we may have been taught them since early 
>>>>>>> childhood.
>>>>>>> To think that our moral principles are superior to those of other 
>>>>>>> peoples,
>>>>>>> races and religions is nothing but arrogance and ignorance on our part 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> can only lead to disappointment and conflict.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -RR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
>>>>>>> Sent: Feb 11, 2015 2:01 PM
>>>>>>> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
>>>>>>> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee]
>>>>>>> Inside Orlando’s first machine gun theme park
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comrade,
>>>>>>> Its all about control.
>>>>>>> A married couple is having a new baby, wife decides she does not want
>>>>>>> the child, she can abort the child, the father of the child has no say, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> cannot protect his unborn child.
>>>>>>> If insteadvof aborting the child, the above wife wants a divorce,
>>>>>>> even though both are under a contract, the husband can not defend 
>>>>>>> himsrlf
>>>>>>> under no fault divorce.  If husband does not want the child he will 
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> pay.  If husband insists on joint custody, wif3 knows what to do, say 
>>>>>>> she is
>>>>>>> afraid of husband, she gets a restraining order based on fear even 
>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>> she was never threatened or abused.  Husband has that for the rest of 
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> life:  It is a civil order that appears on his criminal record.
>>>>>>> It is all about control.
>>>>>>> Those are some very big reasons I say NO to communism.
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> DR
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2015 2:00 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
>>>>>>> DMARC" < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> Wowee, from one single shooting amusement park you have expanded it
>>>>>>>> to a multiple bunch of issues I haven't the
>>>>>>>> time to respond to each one. It is not up to you to say what the
>>>>>>>> commies want, you are no expert in my humble socialist
>>>>>>>> opinion. Gun safety like trigger locks is different from gun control
>>>>>>>> like age limitations on ownership.  No fault divorces is
>>>>>>>> first I hear about? Divorces is divorces friendly or not friendly is
>>>>>>>> all I know? Abortions is very complicated depending
>>>>>>>> on many circumstances which I thought was already decided after much
>>>>>>>> investigations, discussions, etc. Abortions don't fit
>>>>>>>> all circumstances and you yourself once wrote that it is not up to
>>>>>>>> us men to force our decisions on wimen on this matter?
>>>>>>>> To much for me to comment on all the other stuff you brought up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Stanley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. < n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: sparkscoffee < sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 7:54 am
>>>>>>>> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re:
>>>>>>>> [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Inside Orlando’s first machine gun 
>>>>>>>> theme
>>>>>>>> park
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>>> It isn't about gun safety.  It's about gun control.  One thing that
>>>>>>>> the commies want is no one to be able to defend themselves.
>>>>>>>> If you got rid of the #1 thing that is causing school shootings, it
>>>>>>>> would help.
>>>>>>>> Get rid of no fault divorces and abortions.
>>>>>>>> That's another form of people control resulting in millins of
>>>>>>>> fatherless children.
>>>>>>>> Have you noticed that all the boys who were involved in school
>>>>>>>> shootings were children of divorce.  The fellow who was in the 
>>>>>>>> Marshfield,
>>>>>>>> MA plan to shoot up the school actually turned in the ones who had 
>>>>>>>> weapons
>>>>>>>> thinking he'd be doing the right thing.
>>>>>>>> Wrong.  The police used him as a scapegoat.  He went to jail for the
>>>>>>>> longest time.  Some say it's because the local police wanted to punish 
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> father who is president of the Boston patrolman's union.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/the-lost-boys-1/
>>>>>>>> No Fault Divorce, Abortion, Restraining Orders are all part of "new
>>>>>>>> law" where you cannot protect your family.  If your wife says she is
>>>>>>>> "afraid" of you, even though you have not raised your voice, or your 
>>>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>> towards her, if your wife doesn't want to co-parent anymore, she can 
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> divorce you and get complete control of the children, and by law you 
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> defend yourself against no-fault divorce.  If you get a restraining 
>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>> based on fear even though they're not supposed to be issued for just 
>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>> you can never remove it from your criminal record, which means you 
>>>>>>>> cannot do
>>>>>>>> even volunteer work.
>>>>>>>> Not that some Republicans aren't much better, but the TeaParty
>>>>>>>> Republicans are - at least as a diverse group from all races, all 
>>>>>>>> sexes:
>>>>>>>> They don't want this crap.  I'm with them.
>>>>>>>> Men (especially because the war is against them) should be able to
>>>>>>>> defend themselves.  Attorneys that lie, police that lie should go to 
>>>>>>>> jail.
>>>>>>>> If you've ever encountered a moment when the whole system works to
>>>>>>>> hurt you and your family, you know how much they can do.
>>>>>>>> When the court keeps the records and the records are your proof that
>>>>>>>> they're lying, those records can be changed.
>>>>>>>> It does not stop.  The police won't investigate these crimes -
>>>>>>>> because they're part of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> DR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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