RR I think an EMP is high on the probability list. We would be looking at no electric power for an indefinite period of time just for starters. The feds would of course declare martial law and the games would begin. I read an interesting novel recently that had that as a plot. Very well written and taken to a personal level. Three years had gone by by the end of the novel and power still not had been restored. Based on available projections, that might not be too far off the mark. And the book makes a very convincing example of what happens to unarmed citizens as you can well imagine. But of course we will never convince the Stanley - ites of this (or any other ) reality that offends their distorted world view. JS ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/510ef28374bb472830622st03vuc