RR and everyone else today Jews are the biggest topic. How about Albert Einstein, can't call him a sheeple or looking for a father figure and all the others who win the Nobel Peace prizes? That's all for today, folks. Comrade B In a message dated 2/24/2013 1:08:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Kelly, I think it may have a lot to do with the Jewish culture. Jews have always needed to be lead by somebody, dating all the way back to Moses. The gang mentality is what has made Jews the targets of so much discrimination all throughout history. The American idea of the sovereign individual with rights and freedoms are simply unimaginable to them. -RR -----Original Message----- From: Kelly A <kellyutah@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Feb 24, 2013 10:14 AM To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Columbine Victim Asks Obama "Whose Side Are You On?" <ZZZHT John, I think it primarily comes down to religion. Of course, not all Jews in Israel are religious, or even believers, but there are enough religious people in Israel to effectively control their government. That is the main reason why Israel has been lead primarily by conservative governments through it's history. One hallmark of the religious is that as a group they are highly and predictably conservative. Be it Jews, Muslims, Evangelicals, or Mormons... the more religiously orthodox, the more an individual or a group will be socially conservative. The religious naturally find comfort in the prospect of a father figure. The various sects may have different names for him but all of these world religions have evolved to provide the Conservative with emotional comfort in some sort of intelligent order in the universe. Chaos and chance are terrifying things to anyone, and so it's just natural that most people are drawn to coalesce into groups of like minded believers who together provide reassurance that everything is right in their world, and that at least in the long run, 'Father' will see to it that we his children will be safe. The Jews who voted for Barack Obama are not the same Jews who would vote for Benji Netinyahu! You can rest assured that it was the more liberal, less religious Jews who voted for President Obama. The President's supporters are who are Jewish will be found to be primarily Jews socially, but not so religious. Remember, it's conservative Americans (mostly Christian) who most actively defend Israel with a literal religious zeal. The most religious take that defense so far as to couch the very existence of Israel and it's eventual destruction as prophesied necessities to occur in order that their own religious delusions may come to pass. My guess is that many German Jews of the 1930's simply trusted in their elusive invisible father figure in the sky to take care of them through the Nazi years. Of course that never happens, but it does give the religious comfort... all the way to the gas chambers and to the ovens. Kelly A. > From: schalestock@xxxxxxxx > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:55:58 +0000 > To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Columbine Victim Asks Obama "Whose Side Are You On?" > > RR,DR > > I must say, it has always baffled me how the Jews, who have suffered so much at the hands of totalitarian governments,. still continue to support them. It is not as if they are low information voters. Yet even as recently as the last election, their demographic voted overwhelmingly for Obama. i. e. Democrat party line. Seemingly oblivious to (what is now) the inevitable consequences. One can't help but draw a comparison to the "good German" Jews in 1930's Germany who either remained silent or tacitly supported Hitler. But why remains a mystery. > > And by the way Stan, not every issue has two sides to it - especially when dealing with good and evil. As Socrates observed, compromising a true principle (good vs evil) is like drinking a little poison. > > JS > ____________________________________________________________ > How to Sleep Like a Rock > Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5129ffde41ba37fdd0a76st04vuc > </kellyutah@xxxxxxxxxxx> "Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one." - Chinese Proverb