RR,
Look up fornicator. It has nothing to do with being faithful to a woman.
If you are married and you have sexual relations with another, you are an
adulterer. If you are unmarried and you have sexual relations with
another, you fornicate, if you are unmarried and have sexual relations with
a married person, you are an adulterer.
Hitler during most of his life did not believe in God, he was a liar
(despite your protestations) and a fornicator. It doesn't matter if he was
faithful to the one woman in his life, they both were fornicators.
They were both married, he married Eva civilly, since he had excommunicated
himself by long-standing fornication and atheism, he couldn't get married
in the Catholic Church anyway.
RR, your major shortcoming is thinking you know something when you are
wrong and continuing to think what you think even after it has been proven
to you that you are wrong. The list of specifics is so large it could not
be posted here in this short email. Some might term the shortcoming
"Delusional". You might want to coin your own term for it since you seem
to delight in being so.
73
DR
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR,
Hitler could not marry Eva Braun because he was a Catholic and the
Catholic Church would not allow it. He could have had all the women he
wanted but he was faithful to one woman, Eva Braun, and therefore he was
not a fornicator.
As far as I know Hitler never lied. If you have any evidence that he did
then please share it.
I don't know that Hitler hated anybody. Think about it. In order to hate
somebody you have to put a face on it. Nobody hates millions of people they
don't know and have never met. That's ridiculous. I know that a lot of
people, especially Jews, hated Hitler.
You need to understand that Hitler's moral values were Christian moral
values, and these are different than Jewish moral values. Jews are
liars.This is what makes them so good at propaganda and as lawyers. They're
also great story tellers, which makes them good at writing fiction and
making movies. I've found that liars also make the best salespeople. The
problem I have with lying is that people who lie a lot believe their own
lies. I don't know if that is the result of telling lies, or if they are
unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
Lying is an accepted practice in the Chinese and Japanese cultures as
well. Like Jews, those races have a higher average intelligence than white
people, so I am not being judgmental. Maybe I'm just not a smart as they
are. I just know that when people lie to me I fell that I can't trust them
and prefer not to have any dealings with them. But maybe that is just one
of my shortcomings.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 16, 2016 12:48 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Accuracy
According to "Eva Braun: Life with Hitler" Eva and he were lovers. That
means he was a fornicator. [Görtemaker, Heike B. (2011). Eva Braun: Life
with Hitler. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. ISBN 978-0-307-59582-9]
I don't know if priests who raped children will go to Heaven, they might
have sincerely repented of those rapes, and when they are judged found
worthy. Hitler might have done the same. The job of judging is that of
God. The job of discerning is ours to do.
It is widely acknowledge that Hitler's was a philosophy of hatred and lies.
So by that evaluation he was not a Christian because to be a liar and a
Christian are incompatible.
73
DR
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hitler went to a Catholic School. I don't know how much more of a
Catholic you can get.
If he is guilty of all the things that he has been accused of then I
suppose you could argue that he was not a devout Catholic by your
definition.
The point is that I was accused of making it up.
*It isn't possible to prove a negative*, There is no actual forensic
proof whatsoever that Hitler purposely murdered Jews, even though there
should be if it were true. Therefore I do not believe it and it is lie. I
do not agree with the things he did but it was a different place and a
different time and everything that I have been able to find out about him
from his own words is that everything he did he did for the German people.
If Hitler wrote about Christian morals then I have to believe he was a
Christian. He was not a drunkard, adulterer, fornicator nor did ever
physically abuse anybody.
How about all the pedophile Catholic priests that were/are protected by
the Vatican. Will they go to heaven? Why weren't they disowned?
I don't hate anybody but I do have a strong dislike for hypocrites.
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 16, 2016 11:05 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Accuracy
RR,
Hitler had been excommunicated from the Catholic Church by his own
actions.
Nowhere have I ever read that Hitter was a devout Catholic.
He may have been raised Catholic but his amount of devotion is a result
of personal choices and actions.
It's not unusual for someone whose live is steeped in sin - which is any
direction away from God - to distance himself from the Church which calls
every person to holiness and charity towards all.
Drunkards, adulterers, fornicators, piers, swindlers, verbal and physical
abusers will not enter Heaven.
73
DR
