dear Fred
I totally agree with you.
On 4/25/16, Fred Haga <fredhaga2013@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Friends,
I do agree that there is a significant amount of relevant work that a
blind doctor can do, and function effectively. My concern though is
the nature of the market and how accommodating it is or isn’t.
Brevity alone may not put ugali on the table; a job does. It may take
several years for people to be convinced that a blind doctor is as
good as a sighted one. In the meantime, he or she will starve!
If blind people today have made breakthroughs in various disciplines
or fields, it is because somebody dared, and succeeded. Somebody like
Laura out there studying maths and finance; or Solomon studying
medicine!
However, many blind people find themselves limited career wise in ways
that they are not able to ‘dare’. As a consequence, they keep to the
tried and tested paths, and are certain that they will manage to earn
their daily bread through having an income. Many, when faced with the
choice of unbroken ground in terms of career, they choose safe routes.
Little wonder most of us trained as teachers!
Therefore, on one hand, we definitely should encourage and support
young people to dare; on the other hand, we do understand when someone
sticks to the well-trodden and tested path because of uncertainties of
getting career placement.
There are those who may have extremely supportive networks around them
and will therefore be more daring to follow their hearts;
unfortunately, there are also those who may be willing but can’t
afford to dare.
Kind regards,
Fred Haga.
On 4/25/16, Laura Etori <letori.etori6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi** To leave the list, click on the following link:-
Basing from the above discussion, i do agree that some clients will
hesitate being attended to by a blind doctor...
But if we think about, really, thats the whole essence of making higher
ed
more accessible to blind and visually impared individuals.
A while back no one thought that the blind would be able to access the
internet leave alone use a computer.
But with time so many have become good at it, i mean most of us here
would
trust a blind fellow to assist you if u have any problems
Perhaps thats not a great example,
But,
What am really trying to say; is that with our education and proffessions
as the blind its a working progress.
With improved access our confidence levels increase and in essence so do
other people start changing their attitudes.
I dont seek to dissapprove anyone's opinion but i think its time we
expand
our horizons one step at a time...
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:34 AM Reginald M.J. Oduor <rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Again Fred
Let me clarify what I said in my previous email: as I said earlier,
back in 1978 our teacher read an article to us about a medical doctor
with total visual disability. He achieved his goal way before the era
of abundant ICT gadgets. I still remember that his area of strength
was internal medicine which required excellent listening skills as the
patient described his/her symptoms. I think that is a good pointer to
one of the areas in which other doctors with visual disabilities could
excel. Psychiatry is yet another such area, although seeing is often
an advantage in that field, as facial expressions, gestures, etc. are
important. As for General Practitioner services (the kind one gets
when one has regular illnesses), there is no reason why this should be
unduly challenging. Of course I am not a medic, so my views should be
taken with "a pinch of salt".
In my own professional area, philosophy, teaching symbolic logic can
pose considerable challenge to a person with total visual disability,
so I have let colleagues handle it. However, I do teach "Introduction
to Logic", which still has Venn diagrams and a bit of symbolic logic.
I give this example to illustrate that it is often necessary to be
strategic in choosing an area of specialization in a profession.
Reginald
--
Reginald M.J. Oduor, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Philosophy, University of Nairobi
(http://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/oduor_reginald)
Editor-in-Chief, Thought and Practice: A Journal of the Philosophical
Association of Kenya (http://ajol.info/index.php/tp)
P.O. Box 41693-00100
Nairobi, Kenya
Email: rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx OR rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: 254 20 2160951
Mob.: 254 722 625555
Skype: reginald.oduor
On 4/23/16, Reginald M.J. Oduor <rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Fredwrote:
You ask a very important question, to which my reply is: I would
hesitate to go through surgery with a blind doctor, because that is so
delicate that I would even hesitate to go through it with some sighted
doctors. I think such a doctor would himself/herself not be very wise
choosing to specialize in surgery, but again that may be my own myopic
view. However, I do not see why he or she cannot perform most other
medical procedures for me, such as simple diagnosis based on my own
communication of my problem and studying of lab reports following his
own lab requests. We certainly need to affirm each other's
professional competence by using each other's professional services;
for if we do not have confidence in our own, who will?
--
Reginald M.J. Oduor, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Philosophy, University of Nairobi
(http://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/oduor_reginald)
Editor-in-Chief, Thought and Practice: A Journal of the Philosophical
Association of Kenya (http://ajol.info/index.php/tp)
P.O. Box 41693-00100
Nairobi, Kenya
Email: rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx OR rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: 254 20 2160951
Mob.: 254 722 625555
Skype: reginald.oduor
On 4/23/16, Laura Etori <letori.etori6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lol
Honestly i would
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:07 AM Fred Haga <fredhaga2013@xxxxxxxxx>
Br.
Dear All,
We all agree it is an inspiring story. I respect him for daring to
follow this path.
Just wondering though, beyond the inspiration and the intriguing
story, how many of us genuinely feel confident enough to go to this
doctor when unwell?
If we have to think twice before even answering the question I have
posed, then there is still a lot of ground to cover.
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to take anything away
from this amazing feat!
Kind regards,
Fred Haga.
On 4/22/16, Eric Ngondi <eric.ngondi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The story is so inspiring! and I have chose to share to all my
friends and enemies for awareness purpose and in the light of what
andReginoid said"we must keep the fire burning".
Kind regards,
On 4/22/16, Reginald M.J. Oduor <rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Fred
I also had the privilege of meeting Solomon last year - very
inspiring! Of course if he loses the little sight he still has,
the
challenges will increase especially because of lack of numerous
electronic innovations such as those we read about in the article
about the American medic, but we should encourage him to press on
Philosophicalto push the system to facilitate him to the end.
Reginald
--
Reginald M.J. Oduor, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Philosophy, University of Nairobi
(http://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/oduor_reginald)
Editor-in-Chief, Thought and Practice: A Journal of the
mostAssociation of Kenya (http://ajol.info/index.php/tp)
P.O. Box 41693-00100
Nairobi, Kenya
Email: rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx OR rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: 254 20 2160951
Mob.: 254 722 625555
Skype: reginald.oduor
On 4/22/16, Laura Etori <letori.etori6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi Fred
he is my friend, his name is Solomon Odiambo....
yes he is very determined and involved with the students with
disabilities at U.O.N
as blind students we face so many hurdles from school fees to
lack
of
facilities and the biggest of them all; lack of support and
encouragement. but all in all I think we are a strong bunch and
Hereof us try our best to elevate the expectations of the blind...
On 4/22/16, Fred Haga <fredhaga2013@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Quite amazing indeed!
We also have our very own at the University of Nairobi. He is
studying
medicine!
The gentleman (I'm ashamed I've forgotten his name), has no
vision
at
all in one eye and very limited vision in the other. He is
registered
with the NCPWD as a PWD.
I met him last year and he says he may soon have no vision at
all.
Currently he can read some print albeit with some strain.
He has some very intriguing experiences to share; seek him
out!
Kind regards,
Fred Haga.
On 4/21/16, Reginald M.J. Oduor <rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Lora
What an inspiring article! Goes to remind us that where there
is
adequate support, persons with visual disabilities go places.
ofwe
are wondering if we can handle a few charts and graphs, yet
one
theus
is graduating as a medical doctor; and he is not the first: in
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7318398/ns/health-health_care/t/blind-medical-student-earns-md/article1970s my English teacher, Mrs. Linda Humphreys, read for us an
about another blind American who had graduated from medical
school.
While our constraints here in Kenya are certainly more
intimidating,
we must keep the fire burning.
Reginald
--
Reginald M.J. Oduor, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Philosophy, University of Nairobi
(http://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/oduor_reginald)
Editor-in-Chief, Thought and Practice: A Journal of the
Philosophical
Association of Kenya (http://ajol.info/index.php/tp)
P.O. Box 41693-00100
Nairobi, Kenya
Email: rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxx OR rmjoduor@xxxxxxxxxxx
Tel.: 254 20 2160951
Mob.: 254 722 625555
Skype: reginald.oduor
On 4/20/16, Laura Etori <letori.etori6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
stare** To leave the list, click on the following link:-** To leave the list, click on the following link:-** To leave the list, click on the following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
--
for it is Him who works in us, and works through us, and makes
everything beautiful and marvelous in His time and splendour.
Kind regards
Laura Etori
** To leave the list, click on the following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
--
ERIC N. NGONDI
+254 720 963 825
Skype: ericngondi
Email: eric.ngondi@xxxxxxxxx
Alt. Email: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
YALI - Mandela Washington Fellow 2014
Ambassador - Kenya Society for The Blind (KSB)
Chairman - Vision Center for Disable Kenya VCDK
"The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
** To leave the list, click on the following link:-up the steps - we must step up the stairs." ~ Vance Havner.** To leave the list, click on the following link:-
** To leave the list, click on the following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subjectunsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** following link:-
** [mailto:
sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
?subjectúq]
** or send a message, to
** sopvid-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the Subject:- faq
