> but sorry, dan, how can i trim messages/ I'm not Dan, but here goes anyway. When you press Reply, simply highlight text which is not required, and press delete. This is exactly what I have done with your message here to which I am replying. George. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx