Kevin, Again copied without permission (I'm really going to get in trouble with Daniel Spreadberry some day) here is text from the Sib 5 reference manual in the staves section: Small staves To make a staff go smaller than other staves, choose Create > Instruments, select the staff in question in the Staves in score list, and switch on the Small staff checkbox, then click OK. By default, small staves are 75% of normal size, but you can adjust this on the Staves page of the House Style > Engraving Rules dialog (shortcut Ctrl+Shift+E). Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 23:04 Subject: [sib-access] Re: Writing for handbells? Dave, Once again, you come through. I'm not interested in the impact of this on playback. BTW, if you notice, in Sib 6, the handbells don't sound an octave up as they should. They sound where written. I'll try the plugin to create the handbell use chart. Any idea how to make the handbell part 80% size of the SATB parts in the score without altering the handbell part? K. PS. I went looking for handbell in the index and only found one reference. You're a better index watcher than I am. -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:31 AM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Writing for handbells? Kevin, There are almost a dozen references to handbells in the Sib 5 reference manual. This one in particular might help you get started (copied without permission): Skipping bars In some circumstances, you may not want a particular bar to play back at all. For example, your score may start with a prefatory staff (such as a "handbells used" chart), or you may have a guitar fill box on one page of your score, and you would prefer these bars not to play back. This is easy to arrange, using system text to form a pair of "markers" - one text object to set the place you want to jump from, and another to set the place you want to jump to: * Decide on a name for your pair of markers; it doesn't matter what it is. For the sake of argument, let's use the word "cat". * At the end of the bar immediately preceding the bar(s) you don't want to play, create a new Repeat (D.C./D.S./To Coda) text object, consisting of the words "jump to" and the name of your marker, e.g. jump to cat * At the start of the bar you want playback to jump to, create a new Tempo text object, consisting of the word "marker" and the name of your marker, e.g. marker cat. You will probably not want either text object in your marker pair to appear when you print, in which case you can either select them and hide them (using Edit > Hide or Show > Hide) or by inserting a tilde character (~) at the start of each text object, which will hide it. Sibelius will always obey a marker pair when it encounters it during playback, i.e. like all system text objects, they ignore the Play on pass checkboxes. ...and then there is a plug-in that might help: Show Handbells Required This plug-in, only relevant for scores containing music for an ensemble of handbells, will add a bar to the start of your score showing all the handbells required to perform the piece. To use the plug- in, choose Plug-ins > Composing Tools > Show Handbells Required. After you have run the plug-in, you may find it necessary to delete rests or clefs in the bar that the plug-in creates. Plug-in written by Neil Sands. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 21:53 Subject: [sib-access] Writing for handbells? Guys, I'm trying to write some thing for SATB and handbells. I've been told that it's common practice to create something called a handbell use chart above the first system comprised of stemless filled in noteheads with the names of each and every bell that is used in the piece. This usage chart should have both margins indented. First, I have no idea how you create a series of stemless noteheads that are not on a staff. Second, I have no idea how to contract the noteheads of a specific region like this. Oh Mr. Wizard??????? Kevin If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx