aha Dave and Kevin thanks
so, if i will write, the chord C major without any tentions.
i will write CMaj, but if i will write or i need C and it's seventh is
major also. like:
c, e, g, natural b.
how will i make difference bitween it and c, e, g, b flat.?
On 10/6/15, Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> wrote:
If you write accord as simply ate one capital letter, that assumes a triad
with no upper structure tensions, seven, nine, 11, 13. If you want anymore
information it is best to expand your cord notation as I explained in my
previous email.
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wrote:
Aha, but from what i knew, when we need to type a Major chord, we can
use just C, D as upper letters, but when we need to use Minor chords,
we can type these letters as lower case letters,
concerning major and minor appreviations that we put, this is
concerning the seventh state.
please correct my info
On 10/6/15, Dani Pagador <axs.brl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The chord name/roote is always uppercase, like your name would be.
*smile*
On 10/5/15, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustafa.s@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message
Thanks all for yur inputs here. and Thanks Dann for your clerifying.
but you said that i must start with Upper case, even if teh Chord is
Minor.
i knew that if teh chord is c minor, c, e flat and g, i can type the
letter c lower case and they will understand that this is a minor, am
i right?\
On 10/5/15, Dale Lieser <dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Awesome! Thanks for clarifying!
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Hi guys,
I've only just caught up with all of this thread and there's quite a
lot
to
say here.
Firstly, for Dale, there was a massive change between chord notation
in
Sibelius 5 and 6 which rather heavily impacts this discussion. Simply
put,
Sibelius 6 automatically rewrites any text you put in chord symbols to
the
correct notation. EG: "bbma7" (all lower case) would be rewritten as
upper
case B, flat sign, "maj", then 7. Likewise, "edim7" would be written
as
upper case E, circle, 7. The exact rewrite will depend on the options
in
the
house style. EG: diminished chords can be written as "dim" or as a
circle;
major chords as "maj", "ma", "M", or a triangle. And so on. There's
also
a
rather nifty feature which lets you play the chord on a MIDI keyboard
after
entering the chord symbol field and Sibelius will work out the correct
notation from the key signature and fill in the text automatically.
(BTW,
I
recently discovered a bug in the code which reads out characters under
the
cursor so if you want to be absolutely sure the symbol is correct,
escape
out of the edit field
and press F5 after selecting it again.)
For Sibelius 5 users, text edit fields are not easy to work with
because
JAWS loses track of the cursor, this is why it's important to get the
zoom
level right, and even then it's unreliable.
Things are further complicated by the way that fonts change the glyphs
which
are actually printed. EG: in the opus text font typing q prints a
quarter
note. Unfortunately, JAWS doesn't handle this kind of character
replacement
so you just have to know what the write ASCII characters are for the
glyph
you need in the current font. Fortunately, you can work around this by
using
chord notation which is not so heavily dependent. Just stick to the
rule
that you must start with an upper case letter for the root, follow
that
with
a lower case b or hash sign if you need a flat or sharp, then type
lower
case "maj" or major chords, lower case "m" for minor. Standard
extensions
like 7 can just be typed normally (e.g. C7 or Dmaj7 or Fdim7). The
same
is
true for ninths, thirteenths, etc. The exception is for unusual
alterations
like flattened fifths. These need to go in brackets. EG: C7(b5).
I wanted to get around to writing a proper tutorial on chord notation,
not
just in Sibelius but in general, but tempus fugit and the software has
to
come first.
HTH,
Dan
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: Adding chords
Hi, Dale.
I don't have any vision, but use Sibelius with a Braille
display--don't
have
Braille music support, but can see some of the text as it appears in
the
edit fields. The lower-case c stays lower-case. I also have JFW set to
change to a slightly higher pitch for capitalized letters, and it
stays
at
a
lower pitch when I navigate to the c.
HTH,
Dani
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Vaughn,
Do you happen to have any vision? I've been curious about this, and
perhaps you and/or Kevin can help me: Please experiment by writing
simply a lower case c in the chord edit field, and nothing else.
After
escaping from that field and navigating away from it, etc., does
Sibelius turn that letter c into a capital one?
Dale
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: Adding chords
Uppercase notes shows that it is a major whereas the lowercase notes
shows it is a minor.
C and c
Also, if you want to add a tension, put the number in brackets.
C(9), C(11), C(13) for example.
Also, when it comes to flats, such as your b flat, put the lowcase
letter b after the note.
Bb for example.
# is a sharp.
F#
For example. Do you have access to Braille music? It may help to
physically read the chords as a form of music theory to help you
better imagine how the chord looks. I am thinking of a harmony
textbook that discusses chord symbols.
Great questions!
Vaughn
On 10/5/15, Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> wrote:
The cord voicing you spelled is not necessarily C minor seven sus
for. In fact, I have never heard of anyone writing a cord that would
be C minor 7.
If the sus 4 is invoked, you don't know whether it is a dominant
seventh or a minor seventh. So, C7 sus4 is good enough.
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wrote:
Thanks so much Dale. this is what i need.
but somehitng please.
if i need this chord:
C f g
b flat.
this chord will be c minor 7th sus4.
this name is write or what and will i write it as follows?:
cm7sus4
On 10/5/15, Dale Lieser <dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For C minor write simply write cm
For sus 4, just add that in to the chord symbol. For example, a C
7th, sus 4 would be written as: c7sus4
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Ok Dale great, but what a about c minor, must i write the c small
then m i n or what?
nd my last question is about the sus4. will we write Gsus4 or
what?
Thanks
On 10/5/15, Dale Lieser <dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ramy,
I have found the context menu to be quite a cumbersome, and not
speech-friendly way to input chord symbols.
For what you are needing, simply type the following string into
the chord symbol edit field,
Cmaj7
Let Sibelius take care of the capitalizing.
Dale
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Subject: [sib-access] Adding chords
Hello all:
i'm writing a bass part, and i need to put the chords above it,
frankly, this is the 1st time to put chords in a profissional
way.
i need that i use Control K to creat chord symbole. but if i need
to creat c major seventh.
i do the following:
CTL k, application key and i choose c, then application key again
to choose Maj7.
need to ask if am write or not in these steps, and will it look
correct or not?
my other question is that, if i need to write a sus chord, must i
write major sus4 or just g Sus4 and the player will undersntad?
to clerify:
If i need to write these notes in chord: c f g.
must i write C major 7 sus or just C sus4.
Thanks
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