-----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Freeman Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:04 AM To: ch_harrington@xxxxxxxxx Cc: weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx; vats123@xxxxxxxxx; Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: hi Hi All, I think that Chris is being generous when he says the person is dumb. I would better use the term "crafty" and/or "dishonest" Thanks Jim Freeman Charles Harrington wrote On 08/26/07 14:56,: >Steve, > =20 > I'm really ashamed to read that you (as one of the leading experts in this list) fully well agree with Chris' naughtiness and ignorance. That's not criticism, it's an abuse and shouldn't be tolerated in this list.=20 > =20 > Chris has no right whatsoever to call anyone DUMB and then you agree with it. It's a shame to you and all of us in the SI community. > =20 > Since I joined this list a couple of years ago, all of Chris' postings have always carried some abusive statements. Although his arguments are very ignorant, without much technical content, no one has ever called him DUMB. Jagaveer25 already humbly stated that he was not aware that the version he was looking for was licensed. This may as well be a lie, but does that automatically give anyone the right to call him DUMB? > =20 > Ray, with much respect, I think you as the administrator of this list should also take up the responsibility in sending a warning signal to arrogant fellows like Chris who have no respect for themselves and for others, and if they repeat such behavior, they should be BANNED from the list. > =20 > On the other hand, I don't support anybody who intends to steal any other person's work. But I would not also call any body DUMB. > =20 > Thanks a lot for reading > Charles > =20 >steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Srivats, I fully agree with Chris' harsh criticism of jagaveer25. I=20 >don't see jagaveer25 as naive at all. Plug HSPICE into Google and=20 >Synopsys' entry pops up. Run HSPICE such as from a server at the=20 >university and the copyright notice pops up. Plug SPICE and free into=20 >Google and lots of freeware entries pop-up. Jagaveer25 didn't ask for a >link to an imagined freeware distribution of HSPICE. He asked someone=20 >to upload a copy. I don't know of any freeware distribution that=20 >doesn't sit on easy to find servers. I find it impossible to reconcile=20 >these facts with jagaveer25's story. His tale just seems a clumsy lie.=20 >Would you feel OK if jagaveer25 came around asking for help stealing=20 >your work product or other property? > >Regards, > > >Steve. > >Srivats Partha wrote: > =20 > >>Hello Gurus >>I apologize .This is specifically meant for our "Super Brilliant Pal" Chris Cheng. >>Chris let me ask you a question? >>Do you know why oscillations are observed in high speed SiGe BJT'S during break down(CEO) measurements when put under a TLP? >> >>I bet my bottom dollar you wont be able to answer it. You could google all your life using yur super sized brain. >> >>But i would never ever call you "DUMB" for not knowing this. Just that you have never been exposed to this kind of work. That doesnt warrant me to call yu a dumb guy. Everybody cannot know everything. >> >>I had tons of respect for this forum. But the answers provided by people like Chris are totally uncalled for. How dare yu call someone dumb? >> >>In India Signal Integrity is a nascent field. People dont know what softwares are proprietary? So its the duty of the people in a form like this to tell people whats proprietary and whats not? Why make fun of someone? After all everyone wants to learn. People are approaching this group becoz of the presence of so many experts. Why should there be so much of EGO? I think these answers will prevent new people in the SI field from asking questions. Dosent that kill the whole purpose of a form like this.=20 >> >> >>Regards >>Sri=20 >> >>-- >> >> >>-- >>I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious. AE >> >>----- Original Message ---- >>From: Chris Cheng=20 >>To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:26:20 PM >>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: hi >> >>For that I give you=20 >>http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200507/gegenaggro-1120742457.jpg >>Thanks and regards. >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jagaveer25 >>Sent: Fri 8/24/2007 10:12 PM >>To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [SI-LIST] hi >> >> >> >>hi folks >> >>am in new this field >>somebody told HSPICE best tool for ciruit simulation and free ware >>also thatswhat am asking . i don't know that is licensed version . now >>only i know this detail from ur guys ok thank u for kind of >>information. >> >> >>Thanks and Regards >> >>V.jagaveer >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >> >>List technical documents are available at: >>http://www.si-list.net=20 >> >>List archives are viewable at:=20 >>//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >>http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >> >>List technical documents are available at: >>http://www.si-list.net >> >>List archives are viewable at:=20 >>//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >>http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>______________________________________________________________________ ______________ >>Be a better Heartthrob. 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