Hi people, so, having discovered the idea of 'zero' inductance caps through this great communication chain, I thought I would try and 'tap' the chain a little further: my idea for an application of this X2Y technology would be as decoupling between 2 core and I/O power supply planes (20 BGAs/>7000 pins in 230x65mm area, drawing up to 20A), and the ground planes of the following stackup: L1 top sig L2 gnd L3 internal sig 1 L4 internal sig 2 L5 I/O power L6 core power L7 internal sig 3 L8 internal sig 4 L9 gnd L10 bottom sig This stackup seems to me to offer the best solution, but maybe falls down (with regard to return current paths) when looking to swap high speed signals from L4 to L7 in areas where there are no bypass capacitors for BOTH voltages. Ok, there is some degree of inter-plane capacitance, but if I am right, the X2Y caps would seem to be a much better solution, not to mention the obvious advantage of halving the number of components. In fact, any comments on this technology would probably be helpful, as these seem to be relatively new/hard to come by, and I _guess_ they are going to be expensive (probably too expensive for 'plain old' decoupling?), so justification in specifying would be necessary (and obviously, if I have overlooked other downpoints of the above stackup, then feel free to shoot me down in flames ;-) ). Sol __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu