Junction-to-Board thermal resistance is a clearly defined parameter by Jedec (Theta-JB). The suggested measurement below doesn't tell you anything about theta-JB. Theta-JB is the thermal resistance from die-surface to a location on PCB adjacent to the package (<1 mm from package edge). It includes two part of resistance: die to package bottom and the section of PCB under the package. Theta-JB can be obtained by either thermal modeling or measurement. In either case, one needs to: 1. maintain heat dissipation only thru PCB; 2. determine die temperature (usually using a diode on chip); 3. determine PCB temperature at <1 mm from package; 4. determine power dissipation. Theta-JB standard is available at at www.jedec.org (No.JESD51-8). Pat Diao ASAT Inc. Fremont, CA -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rogers [mailto:SRogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:34 AM To: nico.fleurinck@xxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Thermal resistance values Why not try a measurement! Do people still do this What about you run one of your semiconductors on your board and measure = how hot it gets. Now run one in free space and measure how hot it gets. = I would think the difference between the temperatures would be a = reasonable guide. Clearly you need some electrical connections to make = the thing work but if you keep these to very thin wires that can take = the current this approach may work. The alternative is to buy the book = suggested and do some reading! Good luck Steve Rogers B.Eng (Hons) C.Eng IEE RF Design Engineer Micromill Electronics Limited Leydene House Waterberry Drive=20 Waterlooville Hampshire PO7 7XX Tel: +44 (0) 23 9236 6600 Fax: +44 (0) 23 9236 6673 Registered No. 1456922 (England). =20 Registered Office Brook Road Wimborne, Dorset BH21 2BJ *********************************************************************** "This email and any attached files are confidential and may be legally = privileged.If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, = reproduction,copying, distribution,, or other dissemination or use of = this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this = transmission in error please notify the sender immediately and then = delete this email. It is the policy of Micromill Electronics Limited that no legally = binding statements, representations or commitments (collectively = 'statements') may be made by email. 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