Dear Chai, the reason for the different results is the thickness of your trace! In configuration (1) you get a distance to the nearest reference plane of = (a - 35 my) =3D 165 my. In configuration (2) your distance to the reference = plane is equal a =3D 200 my. So you get for (1) a lower impedance than for = (2). You have to check your materials and than select configuration (1) or (2). Regards Hans-Joerg ------------------------------------------------ S I E M E N S=A0=A0 A G=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I&S IT PS8 SBY Dr.-Ing. Hans-Joerg John EMC & Signal Integrity Design=A0=A0 Riemekestrasse 160 Tel: +49 5251 8-20241=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0D-33106 Paderborn Fax: +49 5251 8-20539 mailto:hans-joerg.john@xxxxxxxxxxx=20 http://www.eda-services.de/=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ched-Chang Chai [mailto:ched_chang@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 6:30 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Stripline Characteristic Impedance Dear all, I have a question regarding the stripline characteristic impedance Zo. I have the following stack-up: Reference plane ------------- a Trace --- b Reference plane ------------- where a<b. When I used impedance calculator to get Zo, I have 2 ways to key in a = and b=20 values: (1) Use the stack-up shown above. (2) Reverse it upside down, as shown below: Reference plane ------------- b Trace --- a Reference plane ------------- I got different values for Zo. For example, a=3D0.2mm, b=3D0.4mm, trace width=3D0.15mm, trace = thickness=3D0.035mm,=20 and dielectric constant=3D4.5, approach (1) gives 51ohm while approach = (2)=20 gives 54ohm. Can someone tell me which one is the correct value? Thank you very much in advance. -- Regards, Chai _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*.=20 http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/virus ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu