Oops the second formula was energy not charge. It should have read Qload comes from Qbypass = Vdroop*Cbypass. Steve On 8/2/2011 4:24 AM, steve weir wrote: > Jason, there are two possible sources of confusion. The first is > possible confusion between output load capacitance with die capacitance > per output driver. Your intuition is correct: If we simplify the PDN / > driver network to a switched capacitor representation, then we deposit > Qload = Vdd*Cload on each output line that switches from low to high, > and remove Qload from each output that switches from high to low. For > the low to high switching outputs: Qload comes from Qbypass = (Vdd - > Vdroop)^2/2*Cbypass. > > The second source of confusion comes from the fact that any loads that > remain statically high can draw current from any load capacitance that > connects to the driver outputs, supporting other outputs that switch > from low to high. > > Steve. > > > On 8/2/2011 3:01 AM, Jason Young wrote: >> Dear Experts, >> I have read a couple of documents are from silicon IP vendors discussing the >> number of power/ground pads needed to meet SSO requirements for a given >> number of output drivers. These documents mention that worse case conditions >> for SSO are with the smallest output load capacitance. At first this seems >> counter intuitive. My initial reasoning would be that a larger capacitance >> would present a lower impedance load and hence greater dI/dt, greater IR >> drop and greater supply rail bounce. Could you please help me understand? >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To unsubscribe from si-list: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >> or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >> For help: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >> >> List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.net >> >> List archives are viewable at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >> >> Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 150 N. Center St. #211 Reno, NV 89501 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu