[SI-LIST] Re: RLC value extraction for power plane

  • From: Michael Greim <mgreim001@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Carrier, Patrick" <Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:37:58 -0400

Hi Pat,
This is a little different than the original question but will
the PI tool allow to check for IR drop across the distribution
path to make sure that the last load has enough voltage to
operate properly or that overboost of the regulator output
to compensate for same wont provide too much V for the
first load.  I have run into a couple of situations where this
has caused problems on Very low voltage (say 1Vish) and
high currents for the loads in the path.  Thanks.

It's digital logic power so what could possibly happen, ryt?
Obligatory and global  ;-)  8-P

Best Regards,

Michael C. Greim

And all this science they don't understand
Is just my job six days a week.....

We will either find a way or make one   -Hannibal

In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity   -Al Einstein


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Carrier, Patrick <
Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello Benny--
> You can extract a power plane (or power distribution network, a.k.a PDN)
> model from HyperLynx; you need to be using HyperLynx PI.
>
> If you just want to view the PDN impedance, you can run a decoupling
> analysis (Simulate PI -> Analyze Decoupling).
>
> If you want to extract a model, go to Export -> PDN Model.
> If you don't want the model in S-parameter format, in the Touchstone
> Viewer, select Convert -> To Fitted Poles and Convert -> Export Equivalent
> Circuit.
>
>
> Customer support is very good at handling these types of questions.  Don't
> hesitate to contact support and/or your local AE.
> --Pat
>
> Patrick Carrier
> Mentor Graphics
> High Speed Design
> www.hyperlynx.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Benny Luiss
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> Subject: [SI-LIST] RLC value extraction for power plane
>
> Hi,
>
> I am Benny an SI novice.Can any one help how to extract RLC values for
> power plane. I have tried in Cadence and Hyperlynx but couldn't able to
> extract (even by removing voltage values assigned for the power nets).
> Do any other software like Ansoft or HFSS provide this?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Benny
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