Bill, For the companies that I have consulted for, where we have implemented a complete signal integrity flow into their design environment, the answer is: 2 board fabs on the average. Fab 1 prototype, generally runs and meets all performance requirements Fab 2 production, fixes all logic and manufacturing problems. If a third fab is required, it is usually due to marketing feature creep. I have not had any emi issues in the last 8 years, due to complete consideration of good signal and power integrity and careful consideration of all return paths and resonances on the boards and through connectors. best regards, scott -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 2926 SE Yamhill St. Portland, OR 97214 (503) 239-5536 http://www.teraspeed.com Bill Reams wrote: >Ladies and Gentlemen, > >I have a question that is off topic for this list. However, as we all = >work at companies ranging from medium tech to very high tech, this = >seemed a good source for a non-scientific poll. > >For your "typical" projects, how many circuit board revisions does it = >take to go from the block diagram stage to full production release? > >I know that in the perfect world, everyone would answer "One board, my = >first prototype is always perfect." But we've probably all seen the = >project where we're sent off to design a left-handed widget and = >eventually deliver the flux capacitor that they really wanted - but only = >after a large number of revisions and redesigns because they couldn't = >figure out how to ask for what they wanted. What I'm interested in is = >not the extreme revision numbers, but the typical number of revisions = >for typical projects. And please do include all revisions for DFM, DFT, = >EMC/EMI related modifications. > >Thanks for your responses. >Bill > >_______________________________________ >| | >| Bill Reams - Sr. Hardware Engineer | >| 512-928-7201 (direct) | >| 512-349-0300 (Main) | >| breams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (e-mail) | >|______________________________________| > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu