Dear Amir Nader-Tehrani, As has been shown by Hassan, Celine and Abe many methods exist to characterise a connector, I would agree with Hassan that trying to measure and dembed s-parameters for a multi terminal connector in mated configuration is quite difficult and if you are only starting out in signal intgrity you may not have alot of experience with de-embedding, vna calibration, test fixture design. As Abe suggested using TDR measurements could be a simpler approach, a good paper on the modeling of a high density/high speed connector is: Sreemala Pannala, "Parameter Extraction and Electrical Characterisation of a High Density Connector using Time Domain Measurements" IEEE Trans. on Adv. Packaging Vol. 22 No.1 Feb 1999. Abe suggested using IConnect software to extract the equivalent circuit, you would need a licence for this software but using the measured impedance profile and a circuit topology suitable for the interconnect, a spice simulation can be optimised to fit the measured and simulated profiles. This might be a good approach if you want to get a hands on feel for model extraction. I will send you an overview paper offline that i did which has supplimentary references to help with your modeling. It all depends on what about the connector you want to model? what frequencies/risetimes are involved? what equipment/software tools you have available to you? A good place to look at too is Samtecs website www.samtec.com, they have some existing spice models which you could try simulate, also you could get a sample/buy a connector from them and try model it yourself and compare it to samtecs model. Regards, Eoin Mc Gibney ================================= Eoin Mc Gibney Dept. of Electronic Engineering Centre for Adaptive Wireless Systems Cork Institute of Technology Bishopstown Cork Ireland. Ph: +353 21 4326859 ================================= -------------------Legal Disclaimer--------------------------------------- The above electronic mail transmission is confidential and intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Its contents may be protected by legal and/or professional privilege. Should it be received by you in error please contact the sender at the above quoted email address. Any unauthorised form of reproduction of this message is strictly prohibited. The Institute does not guarantee the security of any information electronically transmitted and is not liable if the information contained in this communication is not a proper and complete record of the message as transmitted by the sender nor for any delay in its receipt. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu