Well said... Arpad ============ -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:57 AM To: shyam dikshit chavali; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Methods to Improving eye pattern Shyam- Please do not feel that I am picking on you specifically, but there seems to be an endless number of people who are continually asking si-list members for answers to their complex engineering problems without apparently doing any work or study on the issue themselves. Then they want a "Quick Response". The most effective way to ask a technical questions on the list is to demonstrate that you've done your due-diligence in working through the problem yourself as far as you can, and then ask pointed questions aimed at clarifying what you don't understand or are troubled by. Just asking for a complete set of rules to solve a problem is unlikely to garner the response you were hoping for. Most, if not all, complex engineering problems can't be solved with simple "rules of thumb". Also be aware that many of the most prolific and knowledgable contributors to the list are not professors whose main job is to spread knowledge to students (and who probably wouldn't answer a question like you posed anyway), but are busy working engineers who probably aren't going to be inclined to do someone else's work for them. Those list members who provide so much valuable information are incredibly generous in their desire to assist others, but please don't expect them to do your job for you (an q uickly at that...). With all that being said, might I suggest the best "rule of thumb" for solving your problem is to read, study, experiment and then if necessary ask a few specific questions. Apologies if it seems like I was jumping on your case, but the question just struck me as a prime example of what (to me anyway) has been transpiring too often as of late. Regards, Ray Anderson (si-list admin) -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of shyam dikshit chavali Sent: Tue 12/1/2009 12:58 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Methods to Improving eye pattern Hi All, Im doing signal integrity for CPRI lines, can i first know the thumb rules to best followed methods for improving eye pattern. Quick response is appreciated. Cheer's S.D This email and any attachments are intended for the sole use of the named recipient(s) and contain(s) confidential information that may be proprietary, privileged or copyrighted under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, copy, or forward this email message or any attachments. Delete this email message and any attachments immediately. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu