If I understand the problem (different overshoot results at the 3 loads depending on the receiver model selected), then I would guess that only 1 or 2 of the load models has clamp diodes to Vcc and gnd, and the other load models don't. Clamp diodes can be very helpful with overshoot/undershoot. regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Rakesh Metha [mailto:rakesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:01 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] IBIS models - What is the difference between Tri-Out & Tri-In Hi, I am conducting reflection analysis on a PCI based board on the local data bus. There are 4- devices connected to the data bus, a PLX-9054 and 3-Spartan2 fpga's - all with 3.3V I/O's and all bi-directional. I am using the Cadstars SI tool for analysis. I get substantially different results when I use one of the 4-devices as a Driver (Output). and the other 3-are defined as either 1. Tri-Out 2. Tri-In 3. In When I declare any on of the remaing 3 as In/Tri-in the over shoots increase substantially. Please help me by clarifying, what is the difefference between Tri-Out, Tri-In and In. and Which is the prefered one when analysing a bus. with warm regards rakesh mehta ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu