[SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question

  • From: Ray Anderson <reanderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:57:43 -0700

OK already! This thread has all the earmarks of a discussion spiraling 
out of control.

This thread, in particular, and several others in the recent past have 
elicited somewhat less than friendly responses from multiple list 
members in response to questions that were deemed either too simple or 
off topic.

This list is unmoderated and is that way for a reason. Moderation makes 
the presumption that the list participants aren't mature or civil enough 
to carry on a conversation without someone approving what they have to 
say. I don't believe the majority of the list members require that 
oversight. (besides, I don't have the time and/or inclination to review 
each piece of traffic before it is sent to the list)

I would request that list members refrain from publicly chastising 
others who may have posted something they may consider too basic or off 
topic. If a particular piece of traffic offends your technical 
sensibilities it is a simple matter to just ignore it or delete it. What 
may be perceived as too basic for one may be just the question several 
others were pondering but were reticent to ask about for fear of being 
flogged on list. Denigrating, flippant or insulting remarks certainly 
won't improve the situation. If a question an obvious attempt to get the 
list to do homework for the poster then a simple referal back to the 
poster's text, prof or TA might be an appropriate response.

Please refer to Jeff and Jon's well reasoned postings that went out this 
morning. I concur with their words of wisdom. Andy's inital response to 
the message was spot on and answered the question just fine.

The question posed this morning really wasn't in the EE-101 category of 
stuff everyone ought ot know. Some of the fine points of  IBIS models 
and how they relate to particular simulators can be anything but obvious 
at times. Granted, the questioner probably _could_ have figured it out 
for himself, but at the same time I think the question was certainly on 
topic for si-list and was asked in sufficient detail to warrant a proper 
answer.

If an ongoing problem develops with particular individuals obviously 
asking for homework answers or totally off topic info, rest assured that 
it will be dealt with (probably off  line and in the most blatant cases 
technologically). In the meantime I would request members to refrain 
from on list accusations, insults and the like in their attempt to cure 
the perceived problem.

As long as I'm writing this, there is one other topic I'd like to cover. 
When replying to a message please try to trim the thread enough that 
context is maintained but sufficiently to eliminate the multiple 
included messages and list footers that seem to propagate in long 
running discussion threads. Quite often someone will send a one or two 
sentence message to the list in response to an ongoing thread and 
include a half dozen previous responses along with all the footer boiler 
plate replicated a half dozen times.

Regards,

    -Ray Anderson
    (si-list admin)
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