[SI-LIST] Fw: si-list Digest V7 #410

  • From: Gregory R Edlund <gedlund@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ria_rr_84@xxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:12:20 -0600

Ria,
I'll take a stab it this.

Passivity - a passive network that has no external power cannot add energy 
to a signal.  If you look at amplitude vs. frequency for a passive network 
(e.g. s21 parameter), it should never go above one.  I believe the math is 
more complicated than that, but this is the general idea.  Anybody care to 
elaborate?

Causality - a signal cannot traverse any transmission medium faster than 
the speed of light in that medium.  This term comes from relativity where 
event A cannot cause event B unless it happens before event B.

Besides nonphysical simulation results, models that have these problems 
can also give simulators numerical trouble.

Has anyone on the list seen a set of publicly available canned routines 
for evaluating causality and passivity of s-parameters?

Greg

Greg Edlund
Senior Engineer
Signal Integrity
IBM Global Engineering Solutions
3605 Hwy. 52 N, Dept. HDC
Rochester, MN 55901
gedlund@xxxxxxxxxx

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si-list Digest           Fri, 07 Dec 2007                Volume: 07 Issue: 
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In This Issue:
                 #1:             From: Ria R <ria_rr_84@xxxxxxxxx>
                                 Subject: [SI-LIST] Passivity/Causality

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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:58:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Ria R <ria_rr_84@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [SI-LIST] Passivity/Causality

Gurus,
  I have heard these 2 terms alot in the world of SI: Passivity and 
Causality.
  I tried googling it and I dont seem to get what I am lookimg for.
 Can someone please throw some light on the definitions of these 2 terms 
and what significance they have in Signal Integrity?
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards,

Ria.


 
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