Hi John, I have a couple of white papers from my web site you might find useful to answer your questions: Method of Modeling Differential Vias White Paper: <http://lamsimenterprises.com/Copyright.html> Practical Fiber Weave Effect Modeling White Paper: <http://lamsimenterprises.com/Copyright.html> Regards, Bert Simonovich Backplane Specialist and Founder LAMSIM Enterprises Inc. Web Site: http://lamsimenterprises.com Blog: http://blog.lamsimenterprises.com/ -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john lin Sent: October-16-11 10:27 PM To: si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] Estimate the differential via stub effect and simulate FR4 weaving effect Dear SI gurus, I am doing 6Gb/s simulation and encounter two puzzles. How to estimate the effect of via stub (differential via) onto 6Gb/s differential signals? How do I estimate the resonance frequency caused by the stubs? For differential signal, shall the effect be cancelled out due to the good nature of differential signals-- noise cancelling? How to do simulation to include the FR4 material's fiber weaving effect? Could you please help to shed some light on them? Thank you for your helps in advance. Best Regards, John Lin ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu