[SI-LIST] Re: Driver strength and trace capacitance
- From: "Mangipudi, Prasad" <Prasad_Mangipudi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:13:13 -0700
Ravinder,
Since the drive strength is high, the rise and fall times may be small
and this increases the knee frequency (0.5/tR or .5/tF whichever is
more, where tR is the rise time and tF is fall time). The trace will be
considered distributed if it is longer than L/6 where L is the length of
the rising edge =3D tR/D where D is the delay in ps/in. If the rise =
time
is approximately 1 ns, then traces longer than 1" are considered as
distributed. The above formulas (1.1, and 1.3 ) are given in Howard
Johnson's book "High Speed Digital Design" and you can do your math.
Regards,
Prasad
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Driver strength and trace capacitance
I was simulating a 2" long net driven by an ASIC and noticed significant
ringing and non-monotonicity. This is a bidirectional net and the
driver=20
at the other end is a 50 ohm driver, which does not require any=20
termination. From the IBIS model I deduced the driver impedance to be=20
about 3 ohms, which I thought was quite low. I was told that the ASIC=20
vendor was asked to design the driver to drive a 100 MHz signal in to a
35=20
pF load. The trace capacitance is about 10 pF (including vias), and the
receiver capacitance is less than 5 pF (package plus die). To me this=20
appears to be a case of over-design. However, I have one question about
the trace capacitance. Can it be considered a lumped load or a=20
distributed load. The Lambda/20 length at 100 MHz is about 3" so I am=20
inclined to treat the total trace capacitance as a lumped load.
Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies
Email: Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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