[SI-LIST] Re: Differences between HSPICE Field Solver and XTK Field Solver

  • From: Kevin Ko <Kevin.Ko@xxxxxxx>
  • To: Kevin.Ko@xxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,TCoyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ventham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:54:51 -0800 (PST)


Mike,

Great, the values are fairly close. I have 99.2 ohms from the L and C. 

-Kevin

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> Tim, Kevin,
> 
> I got 575.1 nH/m and 56.64 pF/m giving a Z of 100.38 ohms using
> our EZ Greenfield 2d boundary element based field solver.
> 
> I also used Er of 4.5, but will re-run it if you have the correct value.
> 
> At 18:10 31/10/01, Kevin Ko wrote:
> 
> 
> >Tim,
> >
> >This is what I got in SpecctraQuest, assuming you are using Er of 4.5:
> >
> >566.5 nH/M
> >57.46 pF/M
> >
> >Could you check your units again.
> >
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> > > Dear Si List,
> > > I am using the microstrip equation in Howard Johnson's book to calculate
> > > the impedance. So given a w=8mil, t=1.37mil, and h=21mil, I get an
> > > impedance
> > > of about 100 ohms. When I use the XTK field solver, I get an L=14.5nH
> > > and a C=1.4pF. When I use the HSPICE field solver, I get an L=65nh and a
> > > C=6.5pF.  They both give me an impedance of 100 Ohms but are quite
> > > different values. I think the XTK values are correct, so I'm wondering
> > > about the HSPICE field solver. Has anyone compared results between these
> > > two tools?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >-Kevin
> >
> >
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mike
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-Kevin


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