By "3 SSTL_2 memories", I'm assuming that you mean three banks of memory in parallel. We have done it without the parallel terminator be we used series termination at both ends in an embedded design for data signals and the one series resistor on address and control signals. We found that while the signals looked good both with and without the parallel termination, the timing margins varied greatly from board to board because of the greater variance in slew rate due to the wider voltage swing. Simulating it, this increased slew rate was more pronounced over the min/typ/max simulation waveforms. Our second turn of the board added the parallel termination and after another round of in-depth timing and signal analysis we found that inclusion of the parallel (end) termination made the timing margins larger as well as more consistent. This validated our hypothesis that we had coming out of simulation and we are confident in the result. This design had two banks of SSTL-2 memory- the equivalent of an embedded dual bank DIMM. =20 -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bostan [mailto:dbostan@xxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:44 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] DDR question >=20 >=20 > Did anybody try to use only the series resistor > (22ohms) and NO far end termination to VTT, for a bank > of 3 SSTL_2 memories? > What results were observed/simulated? > My question is valid for 9mA, 18mA and 24mA drive > strength. > Thanks, > /dan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =09 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.=20 > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >=20 > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to:=20 > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >=20 > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >=20 > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >=20 > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org >=20 > List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu