Dear All, I am doing the simulation and measurement of spiral inductor on silicon. Based on C. P. Yue's paper (IEDM96), there are two configurations of lumped-element model of spiral inductor on silicon: one port configuration with one end grounded and two port configuration. When I do the S- parameter simulation using ADS, I got two different results of quality factor. Case I: (one port simulation) One end connected with 50ohm terminal and the other end with ground. Case II: (two port simulation) Z11=2*50*S11/(1-S11) Q=imag(Z11)/real(Z11) This is what I saw in one paper on IEDM 97. Case III: (two port simulation) Both ends connected with 50ohm terminal. The quality factor was calculated as: Sp=S11-S12*S21/(1+S22) Z=50*(1+Sp)/(1-Sp) Q=imag(Z)/real(Z) This is what I saw in one post in this list. Case I and Case III give the same results but case II gives different and much worse result (only half of quality factor value of Case I and III). So which one is the RIGHT way to do it? I feel more confused after I followed some papers' example and checked my simulated results with their measured results. I found other peoples' one-port measurement results were close to the Case II simulation instead of Case I. What's wrong with this? Please Please help me out!! Thank you so much Johnson ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu