Rich, I use the 20%-80% value only when confirming the [Ramp] data in the ibis file. Other than that I use 10%-90%. Under what conditions have you found the 20%-80% more accurate? Ken -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rich Peyton Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:21 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Bandwidth Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have equations for: a) bandwidth requirement = .361/Risetime. b) f3dB =.35/Risetime Are the above for 10% - 90% risetimes? In reading "Electronic Packaging of High Speed Circuitry" by Konsowski & Helland (any comments on book? mine- Good Reading ) it states that you should be using 20% - 80% for high speed signals and states equation: c) 3F = 1/trise (20-80%) If I use a risetime of 1nsec. into the above equations I get: a) 361 MHz b) 350 MHz c) 1GHz Does anyone want to shed some light on this and comment on which is best to use when running in high speeds. I was taught awhile back ago to use the 10% - 90%, but am running allot of info that using the 20% - 80% is more accurate. Thanks to all who reply, Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu