Do you mean the phase performance of the single bnc connector, or the performance of cable assemblies using bnc or the performance of bnc PCB Launch? And do you refere to phase differences between different bnc connectors or repeatability when mating and unmating exactly the same cable? These are all ultimately different things. The bare bnc connector has a good repeatability, especially when it is carefully bottomed in the mating partner (as you know BNC has a small spring that presses the mating parners together. This allows different mating positions along the contact. for best repeatability you have to check if they are fully mated). The mating length differences shouldn't matter much at 50MHz. When you compare different types of BNC connectors, you will see different performance, and depending on the contact length you will also see phase difference (also not much). Real crappy BNC connectors sometimes have a bad GND connection that can mess up the performance quite a bit (this can then be seen in phase as well). If you are talking cable assemblies, then the cable differences should have the biggest impact on phase variation. By cable differences I mean mechanical and electrical differences and the quality of the assembly. Please provide more information about what exactly you did, and what exactly you are after. BR Gert Please visit us at the HANNOVER MESSE. From 8th to 12th of April 2013 you can find us in hall 11, stand C13. German: http://www.harting.de/hannovermesse English: http://www.harting.com/en/hannovermesse ---------------------------------------- Absender ist HARTING Electronics GmbH, Marienwerderstraße 3, D-32339 Espelkamp; Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bad Oeynhausen; Register-Nr.: HRB 8808; Vertretungsberechtige Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Kfm. Edgar-Peter Düning, Dipl.-Ing. Torsten Ratzmann -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Deibele, Craig Edmond Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. März 2013 15:01 An: weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [SI-LIST] Re: bnc connector i agree steve, this is not a delay change. i guess what i am asking is, what phase performance should one expect for bnc? -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of steve weir Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:56 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: bnc connector It sounds like you have a stub or poor return situation. 3 deg at 50MHz is 167ps. BNC's can do OK to 3GHz or better. Agilent coaxed ( no pun intended ) them past 5 GHz. Steve On 3/19/2013 6:14 AM, Deibele, Craig Edmond wrote: > i am interested in a relative transmission measurement (magnitude and phase) > using a cable with bnc connectors. the frequency of interest is relatively > low, only 50 MHz. simple bench measurements show that the stability of the > measurement is on the order of 3 degrees. i've looked around for additional > data or guidance to suggest what tolerance i should expect using bnc. > > i've not found anything suitable. does anyone have any references or ideas > for what to expect? > > -craig > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 1580 Grand Point Way MS 34689 Reno, NV 89523-9998 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax All contents Copyright (c)2012 IPBLOX, LLC. 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