[SI-LIST] AW: High-Speed (coax) PCB Connector Transitions -- selection, PCB footprint, and performance

  • From: "Havermann, Gert" <Gert.Havermann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:53:39 +0100

Michael,

I second the previous comments about the Molex, Rosenberger and Southwest 
connectors. I prefer the Molex, but for edge Launch the Southwest is my choice. 
Both are non soldered and thus have a great repeatability. We calculate the 
footprint for every stack up in full 3D to get the best transition (usually 
+/-2 Ohms).

On comment to the Mini-SMP:
The problem with all "non standard" coax is the calibration. Calsets for 2.4mm 
2.94mm 3.5mm... are commonly available and you will find one of those at every 
vna. But for Mini-SMP calsets are hard to find. That means you have to do TRL 
if you don't want the adapters in your measurement. Given that you stated that 
the connectors need to be invisible to the measurement I assume you are not 
planning on TRL, thus without a proper calset for Mini-SMP you will also have 
the adapters visible in your measurement. 

If you are interested in accurately measure the losses of a structure 
(especially for low loss structures) I highly recommend to use TRL. Then you 
still need good connectors (at least good repeatability), but you are free to 
chose which connectors to use.

BR
Gert



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Von: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im 
Auftrag von Michael Rodrigues
Gesendet: Montag, 9. März 2009 18:51
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Betreff: [SI-LIST] High-Speed (coax) PCB Connector Transitions -- selection, 
PCB footprint, and performance

Hello all at SI-List,
 

I am trying to implement a PCB connector transition board for the purpose of 
measuring a structure at up to 20 GHz. I would be interested in using the best 
performing coax-to-PCB launch I can find so that it will not contribute losses 
to the actual structure losses I am interested in measuring (i.e., it will be 
invisible to the measurement, or as much so as possible).

 

Two questions I have would be:

1)       What would be the best connector type for this purpose (i.e.,
interfacing to VNA and high-speed o-scopes for s-parameter, TDR, and TDT 
measurements)?

2)       How important is the PCB footprint for the connector; what
would be the best way to make sure you are using the best footprint possible 
(assuming the case where PCB footprint for a PCB connector are not a 
no-brainer)?

 

Some connectors I have been looking at would include:

 

2.4 mm (DC to 50 GHz):

*       Rosenberger 09K243-40ME3
*       Southwest 1493-03A-5

 

 

Mini-SMP (DC to 65 GHz):

*       Rosenberger 18 S 203- 40M L5 
*       Rosenberger 18 S 102- 40M L5

 

Thank you in advance for any replies.

 

Best regards,

Michael



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