[SI-LIST] Re: 2 layers PCB with no Plane(gnd or Power)

  • From: "Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Mohamad Haghtalab" <mohaghtalab@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:25:23 -0600

Hi - At EchoStar we regularly design high speed 2 layer boards.
We used Ansoft's 2D solver (now integrated into Q3D) to do
all the required SI design (including cross talk). Of course
a 2D tool cannot predict EMI - but any high speed design 
on a 2layer board will radiate more than a design that has
planes - so a conductive enclosure may be required.



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Subject: [SI-LIST] 2 layers PCB with no Plane(gnd or Power)

Hi all
 
How can we analyse(simulate) PCBs (transmission line effect ,calculatig 
Z0(SI/EMI issues)...) with 2 routing layers and between them(signal 
tracks)ground Islands(cupper fills...),what's the ground associate with each 
signal track,how can we predict where the return current of each signal will 
flow?
 
Thanks for helping 
 

      
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