Hmmm. OK, I'll try. Many breed clubs these days have an Illustrated Standard. These are distributed to students of the breed, or to persons who wish to learn more about the breed prior to judging it. Most DO contain "amplifications" of the written Standard--they are clearly marked as such and often appear in different typeface, such as italics, or in regular print while the actual Standard appears in boldface. As I said, this is not unusual. I was on the committee for the first IS of the Pembroke Welsh Corgi...and when that came out, it was hailed by many other breeds as the one to emulate. Within the breed, of course, there were many discussions, some heated, about the drawings used... but over time, people who wanted to learn about Pems managed to figure it out without getting all wonky........... I have not seen anything on the IS since the discussion some time ago, and I agree, the drawings submitted by the committee were really awful. However, I disagree that any one dog should be used as the example...if people can't agree on a drawing, how do you expect them to agree on a living dog? I happen to believe that a lot of years spent watching specialties with someone who truly understands how the GSD should move is more important than fulfilling the AKC's requirements...someone can come to the National and take the seminar and walk out still clueless, and be approved. I wish it were possible to get AKC to agree not to approve someone to judge a breed until the Parent Club approved that person, but that ain't gonna happen. That's pretty much the way it's done in the UK (not exactly, but pretty close), and I don't know why it can't be done here. AKC says no. Well, OK...but back to the point.. most ISs have the Standard, and an amplification of the Standard, paragraph by paragraph. And drawings...some are better than others. I remember a few years ago when the Saint Bernard club put out an IS and the club nearly fell apart because the illustrations were so bad...the committee used one member's dogs as the model for the drawings. We can't let that happen with the GSD... and somewhere in that IS we really MUST say that the style of preferred dog is such that newcomers to the breed should spend several months attending specialties and spend time with several knowledgeable people AT these specialties. Then maybe the allbreed judges would be more pleasing to the specialty folks. If you ask how they'd know who the knowledgeable people are, the PC should have a list of available mentors all over the country...AKC has asked all the parent clubs for that information, too............... Peggy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================