I found that showing dogs was an addiction of sorts. If you have it bad enough, you listen and you read and look and you then evaluate your own dog against what wins, not who, but what, and against what the standard says, and against what you like. If winning is the goal, you have to buy/breed to what wins. If learning is the only goal, don't own, just go to shows and look and study. I found asking what others like about other dogs was a great educator. But it often comes down to desire. My mother's desire and addiction was much greater than mine, she put her money where her mouth was, after fighting it for years. She finally got what she wanted, winning dogs. Sara, and all the others who want to show their own dogs, you have to have exactly what a judge will put up, and said dog must be a real show man in their own right, to get the wins you seek. If you dog does not look much like all this year's Selects or all the best of breed dogs at the all breeds, you need another dogs. I have recovered from my addiction. It was hard, but I now do not seek to show dogs, just to go to dog shows. But I completely get wanting to win and to do it without paying someone else to do the running for you. But you need a top dog to win that way. Study study study. And when someone offers you a "better" dog, ask someone else what they think too, Hugs to all sheila============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================