[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V5 #2356
- From: Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:47:09 -0500
I liked your post, Kathy, but there was no mistake here: Ellen Heintz
had inbred herself into a corner. It was DM that Obie had. Years
before it was diagnosed as such, she called it "the problem" (because
she didn't know what it was) and then one vet diagnosed it as
spondylitis, which of course it was NOT. ALL of her dogs developed
this and in 1985 or thereabouts, she stopped breeding because she was
appalled at what had happened.
Obie's symptoms were deadening of the tail, the appearance of much
more rear angulation than he had previously had, first dragging toes
in the back and then as the disease moved up his spinal cord, dragging
his back legs, incontinence. Then it got to his front legs, dragging
toes--he looked so humiliated when he was incontinent--he looked to me
as if to say, "What's going on?" His mind was great; he just didn't
understand. We put him to sleep at 10. Symptoms started 6 months
before that, so at least I had him for 10 years.
Penny
On Dec 14, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I had an experience that might be worth sharing and I'm hoping
> sharing doesn't bring back bad memories for a fellow lister.
>
> (I am not suggesting anyone here who has shared that they lost a dog
> to DM didn't have an accurate diagnosis).
>
> My (recent) experience involves another breed of dog, and quite
> honestly I don't know all of the genetic "bads" that can occur in
> that breed, but this dog developed symptoms that looked just like
> DM. I would have bet the ranch on it. And you know what...I'd have
> lost. The specialist (I was there) made IMO a very astute
> observation...he wasn't going to treat this dog like a particular
> breed or dog or presuppose a particular breed's propensity for a
> particular disease, but, (naturally w/ my friend's permission), he
> was going to get to the bottom of it. (SUPER vet BTW).
> Following a mylogram (sp?) and possibly other tests it was
> determined the dog had cancer and the tumor was creating DM like
> symptoms.
> Just like we have vets who look at a dog and without x-rays
> proclaim a dog to be dysplastic, I have no doubt that we have vets
> that see a dog w/ DM like symptoms in a breed where DM is known to
> exist and proclaim a dog to have DM.
> Furthermore, I don't expect every owner to run up the type of costs
> my GF incurred (mid-4 figures) to find an accurate diagnosis,
> especially when the prognosis whatever the diagnosis appears to be
> dire, nor do I expect someone who has just lost a marvelous
> companion to go through the expense not to mention emotion of an
> autopsy.
> Again, I am NOT suggesting this was true in your case/experience
> Penny.
> I am merely suggesting that dogs with DM like symptoms can have a
> few other things that cause the same or similar symptoms and that it
> wouldn't surprise, given the emotional and $$$$ cost, that tests to
> rule out other causes aren't routinely being done now, and they
> certainly were available to most dog owners all that long ago.
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
>
> In a message dated 12/14/2011 9:21:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> writes:
> Yes, it was diagnosed by our vet as DM.
> I didn't say that Lance had DM--I said he was blamed for a lot of
> problems. Since this was a Lance-FREE pedigree, no one could blame
> Lance for this one.
>
> Penny
>
>
>
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