The 'science' of where a website comes up in the rankings depends on hundreds of things and the search engines aren't very forthcoming about what they all are. Some say 170+ criteria for Google; some say over 200+. Some of it resembles smoke and mirrors because it changes almost daily. Bing/Yahoo trying to differentiate itself from Google (who has almost 70% of the traffic) uses different criteria. There are other search engines but they have a smaller amount of traffic, so we try to keep current with Google and Bing/Yahoo for sure. We also don't have pay-per-click available as an option because of the large cost associated with that. There are huge marketing firms that do nothing but keep track of the changes in the search engine algorithms and we learn from their research. In the old days, you just had to repeat the same word over and over again ('German Shepherd') and it would come up higher. Today a website would get 'punished' (moved down in the rankings) for too much of the same word. It's a combination of a whole lot of things including how long the domain name (in this case www.GSDCA.org) is registered for, how many other websites link into your site (although this one was just decreased by Google but increased by Bing), how long the website has been there, when the last time the search engine programs (bots) visited the site, how often the site content is changed, the most-often used words in a website, the title of each page, whether it has a site map, whether you register it with the search engine, whether it has a physical location, where the location of the person searching is, what the ranking of the websites connecting to you are, and a myriad of other criteria that change on an almost daily basis. Many, many people searching for a term does change it's rankings. There are books written on this every year but the basic thing now and for the last few years continues to be good content that attracts people because they're interested in the topic - but doesn't try to be all things to all people because that spreads the focus too much. It's a moving target. It's called SEO and we pay a lot of attention to it and try to adjust to the changes. We have had more focus on 'German Shepherd Puppy' than 'German Shepherd Puppies' because Google's webmaster tools told us that the searches using the singular are searched more than the searches using the plural for that. We get monthly reports that tell us how visitors get to the website and where they look when they're there. It measures visitors, unique visitors, visitors by country, visitors by time of day, visitors by source (AKC.org, search engines, direct typing of GSDCA.org), etc. People expect more good content than ever and we're trying to provide that. GSDCA.org gnerally ranks well (the web criteria now because of the explosive growth of the Internet defines "well" as being on the first 2 or 3 pages of the search engines) on almost all the search terms containing "German Shepherd" but not all of them. If you find some, please send them along to webmaster@xxxxxxxxx and we'll try to improve that. Thanks to all. Pam -----Original Message----- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:46 PM To: stormy435@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: search engine GSD yes, sort of.....not only because you do the search, but because you click on the specific site * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 12/14/2011 7:43:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: Pam, (Or Zoe), you can answer this one.. Is it true that the more times people search for German Shepherd Dog Club of America, the more it comes up on the search engine sooner? I imagine the full German Shepherd Dog would make it come up sooner, too, but there are a LOT of people who would put Shepherd pups, or German Shepherd Puppies in the engine without that important "Dog.? Stormy (who just found out that she lost a YEAR'S worth of Quicken work when I dumped my desktop.... (see top of head on fire? On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Kay Springer wrote: > So had some spare time and thought I would see what I get. When I > type in German Shepherd puppies in Google, the PC site does not come > up until middle of page 3 which means there are about 25 listings > ahead of it. If I type in German Shepherd Dog, then the PC site comes > on #5 on the first page. > Kay Springer > www.showboatgsd.com > Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning > Ch. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,RE,CDX, CHIC (h,e,h,t) DM Clear > "Strider" 80 BOBs - # 5 & # 6 GSD 2009 > > > On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Iza Ackerman wrote: > >> I just typed in Google and then typed in German Shepherd puppies, >> and on the >> first page of about 7 or 8 websites, NO Parent Club - very strange - >> but >> what do I know ?? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pam Stoesser >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:34 PM >> To: izaackerman@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] search engine GSD >> >> I type 'German Shepherd Puppy' in Google and come up with the 2nd >> slot on >> the page. When last checked, every thing anyone mentioned for >> 'German >> Shepherd (fill in the blank)' came up in the top 4. Google has a >> 70% market > > > = > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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