Fred seems to leave many of us with some interesting or profound memories. In discussing the loose lead at some point and what a judge wants, I recall a Canadian National several years back that Fred judged intersex. He had 2 of the most beautiful bitches under him in specials. One being Angel (Fettucini), the other a bitch from Quebec with a french speaking basically no name handler when it came to specialties. I cannot count how many times Fred had this young man take the bitch around, asking for a loose lead, and off he would go racing around the ring at break neck speed. Then he realized he had a language problem, and the crowd took the plight on, helping to explain to the handler that a loose lead was required. This was not a calm man, and he kept going like a bat with this bitch. I recall watching Fred drop his heading shaking it from side to side out of pure frustration......the heartbreak of being a judge and not seeing such a quality dog move as you want to see them. She ended up 2nd select, Fettucini becoming GVX, shown to perfection by Scott. Was a hard act to beat.... That year in Perry under Roz Schaeffer, that same bitch was shown in open with a different handler, Morris Bartucci. Roz got what she wanted to see and for the rest of us watching, it was a "goose bump" moment. The bitch took WB and select...... For those of you that were there I am sure you will remember her....her name was Dynamics B Nadiana, and watching her in motion was a study in structure and breed type. And just for old time memories, that was same national in Canada that a hot young bitch took BP....that was Guido, Castlehills Cuz I Wanna. Gail will recall vividly my calling her very "structurally deserving", but the attitude - well that is a whole different story. She repeated the outstanding performance at the US national also, and again got BP. Molly Trillia German Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================