Paul adds... Hiya Ms. Sally... While those products are good, they're not a necessity and chix works really, really well. It's great if you can mix it up but truthfully the dogs don't care a whit. Raw diets like Billinghurst's are difficult to maintain, but Mother Nature's pretty simple. Meat, gut, and bone...in no specific order...juz equal quantities. 1 leg 1/4, a scoop of SuperFuel (or another product), a tblsp of veggies, warm water and it's a meal. It takes me 5 minutes to feed the 4 house dogs and another 10 to feed the kennel dogs. Paul > > raw green tripe, beef heart, kidney, and beef back bones. > > > This the problem for me. I would have to ship these things in - I > searched > before variety of meats either would have had to pay high shipping or > stick with chicken - Even where we take our cattle will not let me have > the extras due to Illinois laws > > Sally > www.embroiderybysally.com > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================