In a message dated 5/26/2010 8:31:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: <.The judge is limited only by the knowledge that the GC points must be awarded only to animals that are FINISHED champions on entry of THAT SHOW, If the judge has a question on the status of a certain dog, he can check with his steward( like asking age of a puppy) Helen Miller Fisher> **************************************************************************** ************************ So would the correct procedure for judging a BOB class that has a dog/bitch from a non-regular class be to......... first choose BOB, BOW, BOS......then....if the dog from the non-regular class doesn't go BOB or BOS,and is deserving of grand champion points,go to the steward and ask if he/she is a Champion......If yes, consider him for the grand champion points....if not,don't. Yes,but even if the dog/bitch from a non-regular class is given BOB-BOS ,--if it isn't an entered Ch. he cannot get GC points, The key word is points for GC must be given to Champions of record ( meaning they are Champions before the show ) I'm sure their are going to be mistakes made,until judges get used to doing this , The steward will be a big key in this to prevent it. It would be a shame if the mistake had to be corrected by AKC,and GC points rescinded Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================