In a message dated 8/11/2005 3:05:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx writes: SOOO as a veterinarian I fell a preventive is better than nothing I can see your point Chuck as a Vet, but as a breeder I have another view point and another responsibility. By preventing bloat (through supplimentation) in one sire who is predisposed to it, you are condeming many of his offspring who will have inherited his predisposition. If you didn't suppliment him and he bloated & died, you would have saved many more owners who would have bought his progeny, the agony of losing their best friends to Bloat. Most of our puppies go to pet homes and pet people should not have to suppliment their dogs to live. Does the good of one outweigh the good of many? As you know I lost the most cutest 6 month old puppy bitch in the world last year to toxic gut. While her death hit me hard, I have to say thank goodness it happened before she was old enough to be bred and pass her problem on to unsuspecting pet owners. Will I now suppliment my other dogs? No. I want to know what's lurking in their pedigrees. (I have notified the owner of the sire and breeder of the litter and highly suggested her littermates in pet homes be put on suppliments.) Liz http://www.lealynn.com/ Websites by lealynn GSDCA member since 1976 Signers of the Breeders Code ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================